[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So! I finally got mail working. I'm sending this from a terminal window.
The trick was indeed that my ISP was blocking port 25. I had them turn
it on, but alas that allows people to connect internally to me -- but not
for me to connect to external mail servers. Which I think is just very
lame. They require you to set up your mailserver to relay through them.

Oh well. In either case, I was able to connect to smtp.gmail.com on
port 587. Their relay server is _not_ their MX server. While chatter on
this list has implied that's an expectation, it's not a requirement. So
they're allowed to do that.

However, this raised a question for me. It seems that the smtp= line in
/lib/ndb/local doesn't accept a dial string as valid input. Hence, I had to
manually hack remotemail to use net!smtp.gmail.com!587, since we will
only connect to port 25 by default. Should I fix this, or is this something
we're supposed to have to do?

--dho


- Port 587 (with TLS & authentication) will increasingly be needed for smtp when a Plan9 device is serving as a workstation or otherwise relaying by remote MX.

'Connectivity provider' ISP's are finding it essential to intercept traffic FROM their broadband client pool directed TO any port 25 to reduce 'bot-infested WinBox traffic (billions of such). Many ISP are required by local regulations to do this sort of thing.

- Port 25 inbound (optionally with STARTTLS) remains needed for operating a 'public facing' MTA, with, of course, randomly selected ports (well) above 1024 for outbound to other MTA's port 25.

'public Facing mail servers will increasingly need to be in a Data Centre or otherwise on unblocked fixed IP with apprpriate ToS, with a PTR record, and not in the midst of a dynamic IP block.

So goeth the spam wars....

:-(

Bill Hacker

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