On Jun 12, 11:31 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I hope to get up to speed here too in order to enter into the
> discussion in some coherent way.
>
> Over the years, the anthropomorphic nature of god as accepted by many
> - atheist and theist alike - has skewed this sort of discussion into
> incoherent areas...mainly fed by ignorance.

It seems as if Alan is attempting to differentiate the anthropomorphic
view with a less anthropomorphic view, claiming a god can't be the
anthropomorphic view, thus there is only one.

At least, that's what I see now.

>
> On Jun 12, 8:44 am, Simon Ewins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > [Alan Wostenberg]
>
> > >>> How, Simon, is Zeus other than an alien? What quality distinguishes a
> > >>> god from an alien in the atheist taxonomy?
>
> > >> A god is a supernatural object of worship, veneration, praise, passion,
> > >> supplication, a receiver of and a responder to prayers and so on. An
> > >> alien is not such and if it were it would be being treated as a god.
>
> > > OK. So an alien is not a god but could be 'treated as a god'.
>
> > Unlikely but possible I suppose.
>
> > > Now if
> > > we understand a god as 'a supernatural object', then Zeus and the
> > > whole greek pantheon are not gods.
>
> > Gods are also invisible, intangible and eternally elusive. So Zeus and
> > the 5,726 others with names are as well since they are all of the same
> > attributes.
>
> > > As embodied minds, they are
> > > natural, not supernatural, entities.
>
> > No they fit the description of gods.
>
> > >  They are aliens treated 'as a
> > > god' and not a god. So, what's an example of a named god that is not
> > > an alien?
>
> > YHWH. Thor. Baal-Tammuz. Plus 5,764 more.
>
> > --
> > WARNING: This message is only readable empirically.
>
> > "I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank
> > and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning."
> > [Aleister Crowley, Book of Lies]

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