Dear everybody,

Has there been any news about the demonstration?

I've asked Thomas Gramstad of the EFN [0] to take a look at the legal
matters regarding a demonstration. I'm sure we can get cleared out
whether or not the claims by the GSMA are true, and if not - if what
*they* have done is illegal.

Keep up the good work guys!

--
Best Regards,
omes

[0] http://efn.no/eng-index.html - Electronic Frontier Norway

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Karsten Nohl <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> Congratulations to the discussion we started on the security of A5/1.
> This was the primary goal and we did it in very challenging time
> frame. Thanks to everyone!
>
> The demonstration planed for today is canceled. Let me explain the
> reasons and perhaps start a discussion on how the project should
> progress from here:
>
> A.  The GSMA and some of its members make strong claims that what we
> do is illegal. We do not believe that is the case and that this
> research has not once crossed the line into illegality. However, not
> being lawyers ourselves and knowing how complex wire-tapping laws are,
> we want to reconfirm with our counsel that using the rainbow tables
> for academic purposes is legal.
>
> B.  Starting the discussion on how much security GSM deserves was one
> of our main goals. We did it. The next steps must not contradict this
> positive message we want to get across. I'll put this as a question to
> the list: Do we risk killing a positive dialogue with operators and
> suppliers by providing attack tools too fast? I understand that we are
> 15 years into hacking GSM, but it did hit some industry players as
> news this week. Would it be fair to give them a few extra weeks to
> digest what should have been known years ago?
>
> Please let me know what you all think ...
>
> Cheers,
>
>        -Karsten
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