> My guess is that you're  one  of  those
> people  who don't consider "major" and "minor" to be modes.

Well, I'm equivocal.  I thought part of the criticism of classically trained 
players was that they lumped modes into the major/minor system and hence 
missed the character that the mode gave them.

Actually, we don't even use those very much.  What people really want to know 
is what row/string do I start on or whistle do I get out of the case?  After 
that, the tune follows.  We play in a fairly limited number of keys which is 
why The Presbyterian Hornpipe is fun; it really messes up the melodeons.

> The British Isles
> traditions also have a good number of "neverending" tunes that  don't
> cadence on the tonic at all, but just keep returning to the beginning
> forever.  The human ear hears this pretty easily, but an algorithm to
> discover it isn't simple.

Just so.  Give people the notes and let them judge for themselves.  The first 
part of Scan's No 2 sounds resolved to my ear, but maybe that's because it is 
very familiar and does what I expect it to do, and the second part sounds 
unresolved, but maybe that's because I'm anticipating the change of tune.  
The human ear varies by person and circumstance.

Double Hornpipes are, indeed, cracking tunes.  They seem to be picking up in 
popularity in sessions.  As well as the 121212 and 123123 rhythms, there also 
seems to be a 123412 rhythm with matching harmony.  There don't seem to be 
many recorded that I know of, but The Presbyterian and The Red Lyon can be 
heard on Blowzabella - Bobbityshooty (Plant Life Records PLR064) and Rusty 
Gully and Go To Berwick, Johnnie on Sandra and Nancy Kerr - Neat and Complete 
(Fellside FECD107)

Bryan Creer

Ive only just noticed John's "Bryan Creer rambles on with:...".  Yes I do, 
don't I, but if you keep putting up things I feel compelled to answer.....

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