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John Atchley wrote:
<quote>
        [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
        > But plain ascii text from 30 years
        > ago is readable just about anywhere, and will be readable  a  century
        > from  now.
<p>
        <devil's advocate>
        Provided it's on an accessible physical medium.  30 years ago
        ...
        Now, you'd be hard pressed to find hardware to read your paper or mylar
        tapes and ibm cards outside of a museum and even equipment that can handle
        nine-track tapes is becoming rare outside of universities and government
        facilities.
<p>
        Finally, nothing stored on magnetic media is likely to be reliably readable
        a century from now even if you can find compatible hardware.
        ...
        </devil's advocate>
</quote>

<p> Yup.  This is a growing lament  from  historians.   Much  of  the
world's  history  is  now  in forms that will shortly be difficult or
impossible to  read.   That  which  is  readable  will  require  very
expensive equipment. I have a collection of backup tapes from various
projects that I've worked on over a couple of decades; none  of  them
is readable on any equipment that I have available.

<p> In fact, what seems to be happening is that most of  the  world's
usable information is going permanently online.  Attempts to estimate
the size of the online disk drives are concluding that there are more
bits  online  now  than  the  information  content of all the world's
physical libraries and archives.  The most reliable way  to  back  up
data  is  to  copy it to another machine's disk.  That way you have a
good chance of being able  to  read  the  bits,  and  your  remaining
problem is whether you can decode the file format.

<p> I have a sizeable collection of ABC tumes online. They are backed
up on three other machines. (Can you find them? ;-) If I get squished
by a truck on the way home tonight, any one of you could download any
or  all  of  my  tunes  and  they  wouldn't be lost.  This is, on the
average, a lot more reliable than any tape or paper copy in my  home,
where one fire would destroy them for all eternity. One thing that is
obvious from my work on indexing the online ABC is that most  of  the
ABC tunes are backed up at one or more other sites.

<quote>
        I've been doing the family-history thing and what I finally settled on as
        the most probable format for longevity is HTML.
</quote>

<p> This is likely true.  To illustrate it, I've taken  the  step  of
typing  this  message  in  HTML.  I'd predict that if this message is
still around in a century, it'll still  be  readable  by  anyone,  no
matter  what computers have evolved into by then.  And I'd also guess
that few if any of the readers here are put off by the simple  markup
that I've used.

<p> One growing problem with HTML, though, is the large body of "junk
HTML" being spewed out by a lot of software.  HTML was designed to be
simple and unobtrusive, with the idea that people could type and read
it.  Now we see lots of mailing lists installing filters that discard
all HTML, because so much of it is unreadable garbage.  As we move to
the more capable XML, this will probably get worse. This will be true
despite the fact that markup like the above  <devil's  advocate>  tag
are simple and obvious (though syntactically incorrect ;-).

<p> Still, if you type it yourself, HTML markup is  probably  a  very
good way to get simple formatting without making the text unreadable.
The main problem here is that it's tricky to embed ABC inside an HTML
document without garbling the musical information.

<p> (I note that this list does still pass HTML.  This message  would
not  be readable on a lot of other mailing lists, though, since their
filters would discard the whole thing.  ;-)

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