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Laura writes:
| >>>>> "John" == jc  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|     John> I've been registered as a developer since May.  ...
|     John> ...  I still haven't stumbled across the info
|     John> on how to put things into cvs.  ...
|
| First, let me suggest that people who want to be developers join the
| abc-discuss list at sourceforge, so we don't have to clutter up the
| abcusers list with discussions of how to use cvs.

Well, I joined that list  some  time  back.   I  got  a  verification
message,  so  I'm probably on it.  But that's all I've ever received.
Either the list is dead or nothing is being sent to me.  I  joined  a
couple of other lists, too, and got verification messages but nothing
else has ever appeared in my mailbox from sourceforge.

| I did manage to get some stuff into cvs.  I used the documentation at
| https://sourceforge.net/docman/?group_id=1.  The two documents that
| are relevant are "Getting started with SourceForge" and the
| "SourceForge CVS howto".  I'm willing to try to remember how I did
| this if someone asks me specific questions.

That's a URL that  I'd  have  never  guessed,  and  somehow  I  never
stumbled across it in my wanderings. Given these pages, I've tried to
check in my jcabc2ps.  As often happens in the years I've been  using
cvs,  the  result  is  a real mess, which I'm trying to clean up.  It
seems to have checked in my jcabc2ps directory and everything else in
the  vicinity.   This includes several old versions of abc2ps, and at
least three versions of abcmidi.  Grrr ...

This does seem to be fairly common with cvs.  I've seen lots of users
spend  hours  or days trying to get cvs to check in only the contents
of one directory, and being baffled by what happens. The little beast
seems  to  like  to  grab  everything  in  the  parent or grandparent
directory, along with the one you want. It also seems easy to get the
sort  of stuttering that I seem to have produced, in which a checkout
produces a jcabc2ps directory, which contains a  jcabc2ps  directory,
which contains ...

I also wonder what a "vendor" is?  The  "cvs  import"  command  wants
this,  and it's mentioned in the cvs man page.  But I'm not a vendor,
and I didn't get abc2ps from any vendor, so it's not at  all  obvious
what belongs here. Or should it just be the six chars "vendor"? I did
that, and it seems to have been accepted, but it doesn't make a whole
lot of sense that "cvs import" would want these six chars.

| As far as putting stuff up at the ftp site, the person who has done
| this successfully is James Allwright.

All my attempts to connect to the  sourceforge  ftp  site  have  been
soundly  rebuffed.   Similarly  with attempts to ssh to their compile
farm machines.

Anyhow, I wonder if there's some way that I can clear  out  the  mess
that  I  seem  to  have made of my "jcabc2ps" directory and start all
over?  I've used "cvs delete" and "cvs commit", but then when I do  a
"cvs  checkout", all the stuff that I tried to delete comes back.  Is
there some admin who can just wipe it out and let me  try  again?   I
really  don't  want  three  versions  of  abcmidi  inside my jcabc2ps
directory, but I don't know how to undo the damage.

I don't seem to be finding any clues as to where on  sourceforge  one
can  ask  about dumb questions like these.  Their pages don't seem to
contain amy mailto:  links.  There are some FAQs, but they don't seem
to  explain  what  to do when a checkin is messed up.  It seems to be
another cheery case of "Don't worry your little head about it;  it'll
all work just fine." But when it doesn't work just fine, well ...

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