>>>>> "John" == jc  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    John> Laura writes:

    Laura> | First, let me suggest that people who want to be
    Laura> developers join the | abc-discuss list at sourceforge, so
    Laura> we don't have to clutter up the | abcusers list with
    Laura> discussions of how to use cvs.

    John> Well, I joined that list  some  time  back.   I  got  a  verification
    John> message,  so  I'm probably on it.  But that's all I've ever received.
    John> Either the list is dead or nothing is being sent to me.  I  joined  a
    John> couple of other lists, too, and got verification messages but nothing
    John> else has ever appeared in my mailbox from sourceforge.

No, because people are posting here instead of writing to the
sourceforge lists.  Which is good if what they're writing about is how 
to use ABC, or something of interest to the general ABC community, but 
not so good if it's "How do you use the CVS at sourceforge?"

I have copied this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
have attempted to redirect followups there, although I doubt very many 
mail programs honor the Followup-To field.  So anyone who's interested in
continuing this discussion should go to
http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/abc-discuss and subscribe there.

    Laura> | I did manage to get some stuff into cvs.  I used the
    Laura> documentation at |
    Laura> https://sourceforge.net/docman/?group_id=1.  The two
    Laura> documents that | are relevant are "Getting started with
    Laura> SourceForge" and the | "SourceForge CVS howto".  

    John> That's a URL that I'd have never guessed, and somehow I
    John> never stumbled across it in my wanderings. Given these
    John> pages, I've tried to check in my jcabc2ps.  As often happens
    John> in the years I've been using cvs, the result is a real mess,
    John> which I'm trying to clean up.

Yes, this is the problem I haven't managed to solve yet, either.

    John> I also wonder what a "vendor" is?  

There's an explanation of this at
http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.html#Tracking%20Third-Party%20Sources%20(Vendor%20Branches).

The http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.html url is also pretty good
for answering other cvs questions.  

    John> All my attempts to connect to the  sourceforge  ftp  site  have  been
    John> soundly  rebuffed.   Similarly  with attempts to ssh to their compile
    John> farm machines.

I managed to ftp to download.sourceforge.net, and upload something to
the incoming directory.  I believe that as administrator, I would be
able to figure out how to make that something a "release".

    John> Anyhow, I wonder if there's some way that I can clear  out  the  mess
    John> that  I  seem  to  have made of my "jcabc2ps" directory and start all
    John> over?  I've used "cvs delete" and "cvs commit", but then when I do  a
    John> "cvs  checkout", all the stuff that I tried to delete comes back.  Is
    John> there some admin who can just wipe it out and let me  try  again?   

Maybe, but I can't.  I tried with my own mess, and was unsuccessful.
I think "cvs release" might be the next thing to try.


    John> I don't seem to be finding any clues as to where on
    John> sourceforge one can ask about dumb questions like these.

There's a support page, but I tried asking there, and didn't get an
answer.

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