John Chambers wrote:
> 
> Henning Kiel schrieb:
> | I just found out that abc doesn't support gracenotes at the end of a
> | note (as an ending to a trill or so (and "long" trills, ie. spanning
> | multiple bars or so, are not implemented AFAICS., but that is a
> | feature which should be possible right now (like long
> | crescendos))). What I would like to have is
> |
> | X:1
> | M:3/4
> | K:C
> | !trill(!c6-|c6!trill)!{=Bc} | !accent!e z z2 z2 |
> 
> This has already been noticed.  Actually, the  ABC  standard  doesn't
> really  say  that  trailing  grace  notes  like this are illegal.  It
> doesn't say anything on the topic at all.  The real problem  is  that
> current ABC software doesn't much allow this syntax.
> 
> There are a number of similar situations, where you can express a bit
> of music in ABC easily, but various programs don't allow it.  Another
> one is having an incomplete bar at the end of a  staff.   ABC  allows
> this  (simply  by not saying much on the subject), and some ABC tools
> implement it correctly (by not drawing a bar line at the end  of  the
> staff).  But some ABC programs were written by programmers who "know"
> that staffs always end with bar lines.
> 
> The best solution is probably to continue to bring up such  problems,
> and  push  for getting them fixed.  I'd consider the lack of trailing
> grace notes to be simply a bug,  since  it's  clearly  legal  musical
> notation.   But programmers have to be told that it's legal, or a lot
> of them won't think of implementing it.
> 
> As we discover such problems, it might help if we could add  comments
> about  them into the ABC standard, whatever and wherever it is at the
> time.  Maybe the standard needs a sort of "Implementation Guidelines"
> section to mention cases like this.
> 
> There's another gracenote-related issue that a lot of  software  gets
> wrong:    Some  programs  automatically  connect  gracenotes  to  the
> following note with a slur.  There are musical styles  where  such  a
> slur  is  significant,  and  is  sometimes written and sometimes not.
> Programs should only do this if the ABC has an explicit slur.  Again,
> the  ABC  standard  really  doesn't mention this, so programmers have
> done whatever they thought was "normal".
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Grace notes are automatically slured to the following note in my
program, because you have to take the time for the graces notes from it,
and if you don't slur them the main note sounds staccato. 

It's fairly easy to put grace notes after the note from which they get
their time duration, but such are so rare that it didn't seem to me to
be worth the effort.

Bruce Olson

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