Hi Abcusers ... There was some talk recently about the generation of .pdf files - not that I managed to follow a word of the discussion - far over my simple head ...However there is - or was a PDF file generator at http:\\www.ctrlp.com/ that works - and has a very competitive price ... a few moment of time! I don't know if it will answer the needs of the PC user - and three is - I think a Mac version but I didn't explore too deeply! Keep up the good work - I understand about 50% of what is said - and can utilise about 10% of that understanding! But I'm more than sure you're creating a fantastic "thing" and one which will become of increasing interest to generations of musicians to come. Oh and the WAV to Midi question do look at the http:\\www.audioworks.com site - looks very interesting - more so since from midi we can get abc! Have fun Jon McNamara > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 10 April 2001 15:48 > Subject: abcusers-digest V1 #478 > > > abcusers-digest Tuesday, April 10 2001 Volume 01 : Number > 478 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:50:45 +0200 > From: Frank Nordberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [abcusers] 6 against 4 (again?) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Do other abc-related programs do a better job with slurs? > > I ran the example through abc4mac. Since this is such a basic feature, > you can except all abc2ps based application (abc2ps, abcm2ps, abctab2ps, > jcabc2ps and abc4mac) to handle it the same way. > Quite frankly I'm really impressed by abc2ps in this respect. I know > it's not easy to get this right. > > > Frank Nordberg > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: > http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:47:52 +0200 > From: Frank Nordberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [abcusers] ABC site update finished > > I've finally finished updating my ABC site at: > http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/index.tpl > > Since I've been bothering the list every time I've updated a part of the > site recently, there shouldn't be anything new for you there, but to sum > it all up, Frank's ABC site includes: > > *1658 ABC tunes (1471 of my own transcriptions and 187 posted by others > at abcusers) > > *The absusers tune archive > > *ABC applications (53 ABC programs and scripts listed) > > *The ABCyclopedia (An encyclopedia style ABC reference work) > > *BarFly macros (A collection of BarFly stress prorgams and ornament > macros) > > In addition there's the ABC category at the Free Sheet Music Directory, > and a small (but it'll grow) selection of ABC related software. > > Frank Nordberg > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: > http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:19:11 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [abcusers] 6 against 4 (again?) > > - --part1_6d.1206f7e9.28031edf_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Frank is right, overall, the slur handling is very impressive in abc2ps. > > However, here's an example that breaks it: > > X:1 > M:4/4 > L:1/4 > R:hornpipe > Q:1/4=130 > K:C > %%%%% > (3(c'ge) z2 > > The slur collides with the bracket over the triplet. Visually speaking, > I'm > not sure how this should be resolved. Either the slur or the bracket needs > to > be raised. > > Which makes me wonder, are there any good reference works on the finer > points > of music typography? I find that I'm developing an interest in these odd > little details. > > Back on the subject of abc -- should I submit the tuplet/slur issue as a > "wish list" item for future releases, or do the developers of the various > abc2ps programs participate in this list? > > Yours, > > - Matt > > - --part1_6d.1206f7e9.28031edf_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>Frank is right, overall, > the slur handling is very impressive in abc2ps. > <BR> > <BR>However, here's an example that breaks it: > <BR> > <BR>X:1 > <BR>M:4/4 > <BR>L:1/4 > <BR>R:hornpipe > <BR>Q:1/4=130 > <BR>K:C > <BR>%%%%% > <BR>(3(c'ge) z2 > <BR> > <BR>The slur collides with the bracket over the triplet. Visually > speaking, I'm > <BR>not sure how this should be resolved. Either the slur or the bracket > needs to > <BR>be raised. > <BR> > <BR>Which makes me wonder, are there any good reference works on the finer > points > <BR>of music typography? I find that I'm developing an interest in these > odd > <BR>little details. > <BR> > <BR>Back on the subject of abc -- should I submit the tuplet/slur issue as > a > <BR>"wish list" item for future releases, or do the developers of the > various > <BR>abc2ps programs participate in this list? > <BR> > <BR>Yours, > <BR> > <BR> - Matt</FONT></HTML> > > - --part1_6d.1206f7e9.28031edf_boundary-- > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: > http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:14:56 -0700 (PDT) > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [abcusers] Reference works for typography > > At 10:19 AM 09-04-01 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Which makes me wonder, are there any good reference works on the finer > points > > of music typography? I find that I'm developing an interest in these odd > > > little details. > > Try the following: > > Kurt Stone - Music Notation in the Twentieth Century A Practical > Guidebook. Norton ISBN 0-393-95053-0 > Ted Ross - Teach Yourself the art of Music Engraving and Processing Hansen > Books > Tom Gerou, Linda Lusk - Essential Dictionary of Music Notation Alfred > Publishing Co. ISBN 0-88284-730-9 > > All available from: > > http://www.npcimaging.com/ > > Bob > > - ---------------------------------------------------------- > - -- Bob Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: > http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: 09 Apr 2001 11:29:20 -0400 > From: Laura Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [abcusers] 6 against 4 (again?) > > >>>>> "Matt" == Simandl124 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Matt> Which makes me wonder, are there any good reference works on > Matt> the finer points of music typography? I find that I'm > Matt> developing an interest in these odd little details. > > There's a list of such works on the lilypond site at > http://www.cs.uu.nl/~hanwen/lilypond/Documentation/out-www/index.html. > Go down to the "Literature" section. > > Matt> Back on the subject of abc -- should I submit the > Matt> tuplet/slur issue as a "wish list" item for future releases, > Matt> or do the developers of the various abc2ps programs > Matt> participate in this list? > > Some of them do. You're better off writing a bug report to the > maintainer of whichever version you use at the moment. Another > resource, which hasn't hitherto been used, is the bug reporting system > at the sourceforge site, https://sourceforge.net/projects/abc/. > > - -- > Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > http://www.laymusic.org : Putting live music back in the living room. > > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: > http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 11:00:57 -0400 > From: Wil Macaulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [abcusers] Re: abc for MAC > > If you want to take one tune at a time, listen, > edit, print out, BarFly's your best bet. If you > want to print out a whole book of tunes at once > and have access to a PostScript printer, abc4mac. > If you want to print multiple tunes and do not have > a postscript printer, you can use abc4mac and > GhostView to create PDF files which will print > most anywhere. > > By the way, I just tried compiling abc2ps 1.4 under > Mac OS X - compiled first time from the makefile, > and creates .au files now as well. > > wil > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Cindy wrote: > > > > >I have been asked what is the best software (and why) to > > >download for Mac users. Anyone want a go singing the praises of > > >their favs? > > > > The answer to this kind of question always depends on what you want > > to do with it. Do you want quality (i.e., PostScript) graphic output? > > Do you want to see the music as you type? Etc., etc. > > > > I have found BarFly to meet all my needs. It doesn't do PostScript, > > but it does almost everything else. For PostScript, try abc4mac. > > Those are the only two Mac abc packages I have any familiarity with. > > They both have decent sound, although BarFly's is more flexible. > > > > ______ /\/\/\/\ > > <______> | | | | | David Barnert > > <______> | | | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <______> | | | | | Albany, N.Y. > > <______> \/\/\/\/ > > > > Ventilator Concertina > > Bellows Bellows > > (Vocation) (Avocation) > > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: > http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html > > - -- > Wil Macaulay email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > voice: +1-(905)-886-7818 xt2253 FAX: +1-(905)-886-7824 > Syndesis Ltd. 28 Fulton Way Richmond Hill, Ont Canada L4B 1J5 > "... pay no attention to the man behind the curtain ..." > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: > http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:12:08 -0400 > From: "Daniel J. Curtin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [abcusers] BarFly and PostScript > > I do usually use abc4mac for PostScript. Of course, using a laser > printer setting and printing a BarFly file to a file instead of a > printer you do get PostScript. My apologies if this is repeat > information. It was discussed on some list recently I am not sure > which-I don't know if my mind is going, or if I am just on too many > lists. > > In any event - BarFly has served me well for years as my main > abc (and really music in general) tool. > > Cheers > > Dan > > PS. Love Dave's sig file. > > > Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:26:51 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [abcusers] Re: abc for MAC > > Cindy wrote: > > >I have been asked what is the best software (and why) to > >download for Mac users. Anyone want a go singing the praises of > >their favs? > > The answer to this kind of question always depends on what you want > to do with it. Do you want quality (i.e., PostScript) graphic output? > Do you want to see the music as you type? Etc., etc. > > I have found BarFly to meet all my needs. It doesn't do PostScript, > but it does almost everything else. For PostScript, try abc4mac. > Those are the only two Mac abc packages I have any familiarity with. > They both have decent sound, although BarFly's is more flexible. > > ______ /\/\/\/\ > <______> | | | | | David Barnert > <______> | | | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <______> | | | | | Albany, N.Y. > <______> \/\/\/\/ > > Ventilator Concertina > Bellows Bellows > (Vocation) (Avocation) > > - -- > > Daniel J. Curtin > Associate Professor > Department of Mathematics and Computer Science > Northern Kentucky University > Highland Heights, KY 41099 > USA > > Phone (859) 572 -6348 > Fax (859) 572-6097 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nku.edu/~curtin/ KF4AV > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: > http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 20:12:10 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [abcusers] Tuplet question > > Hello, > > I'm a new abc user, with a question for the more experienced: > > How would you notate 6 beats against 4, if it contains both rests and > notes, and occurs in the middle of a 4/4 piece in swing rhythm? > > I tried to do it like this: > > X:1 > T:Example > R:hornpipe > M:4/4 > L:1/4 > Q:1/4=120 > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > (3zD,,D,, (3D,,zz | > > It's supposed to be a rest, three notes, and two rests. The notes and > rests are all of equal duration, and together they add up to 4 beats. > > The MIDI generated by abc2midi is perfect, but yaps objects to the rests, > which aren't allowed in tuples. > > Hornpipe rhythm, of course, is supposed to be an approximation of swing > time. I could just notate this piece in 12/8, but 4/4 is more standard for > jazz charts. > > Any suggestions? > > - Matt > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: > http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 17:56:51 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [abcusers] Tuplet question > > Please disregard that last message -- it appears that my ISP is just now > relaying something I submitted several days ago. Sorry for the redundancy. > (There may be one more such message in limbo.) > > - Matt > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: > http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:25:22 +0100 > From: James Allwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [abcusers] 6 against 4 (again?) > > On Sat 07 Apr 2001 at 10:24PM +0100, Phil Taylor wrote: > > Matt wrote: > > > > >In 4/4 time, hornpipe rhythm, what is the best way in abc to notate a > bar > > >containing six rests and notes of equal duration? If there were no > rests, > > >(3aaa (3aaa would suffice. But if I change any of those notes to rests, > e.g., > > >(3zaa (3azz, yaps issues several errors and renders the measure as if > it were > > >in 5/4 time. > > > > For (3azz, a more conventional notation would be a<z > > For (3zaa, I would probably use za/2a/2 > > Notation of rests is always a bit approximate - most real players will > overlap notes or leave gaps between notes according to instrument and > personal style. > > Rests in tuples make for confusing notation, but I suspect the real > reason why I don't handle them in yaps is that the restriction is left > over from when the handling of tuples was even more primitive. Consider > this feature added to my wish list of yaps extensions. > > James Allwright > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: > http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html > > ------------------------------ > > End of abcusers-digest V1 #478 > ****************************** > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
