Laurie Griffiths wrote -

>Who ever wrote "I want it my way and no other.".  Nobody, right?  
You just made it up, right?

Nobody said it.  I made it up.  It was my ironic precis of John Chambers's 
assertion that -

>The opposition was  essentially  from
>people  who didn't need it and didn't see why abc should be cluttered
>up with things that only other people need.
>
>This is, of course, completely standard human behavior.

It was not intended to represent anything that you or anyone else had said.

If you think my precis is innacurate, please feel free to say so.  If you 
disagree with John's assessment, take it up with him.

>"we like it that way and reading this thread will reveal who 'we' are".

I'm sorry, but I can't see that it matters whe "we" are.  The point is that 
it includes some people and excludes others.

>So MY OPINION which is derived from my growing up is that
>modes matter and I don't want to see them go away.  

Neither do I, I just want to have the freedom to represent music accurately 
when the tonic/mode information is unavailable or unreliable or 
inappropriate.  Anyway, the modes will never go away; they are there in the 
notes of the tune.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion Laurie but I would like to know 
the rationale behind it.  The choice is between tonic+mode or tonic+mode+key 
sig (all parts optional).  Why would the latter cause you any problems?  Why 
don't you like it?

>I suspect that your opinion was influenced by writing a converter 
>to Noteworthy where you didn't have any obvious place to put the mode.  

The problem comes with converting form Noteworthy, which (like most other 
music packages in the world) doesn't have mode information, to abc.  I was 
forced to put out bad abc and I didn't like it.

>And I for one have never written "I want it my way and no other."

I never said you did but it's interesting that you thought I was referring to 
you.

Bryan Creer

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