Richard Robinson writes:
| On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 09:26:40PM -0000, Phil Headford wrote:
| > I may have missed this from an earlier discussion; apologies if so.
| > Real, working musicians in bands need to be able to choose (often in a matter of 
seconds) a tune to go with the next dance.
| > With a repertoire of hundreds (or a thousand or two) of tunes, the characteristics 
of each tune or set are not always easy to bring to mind.
| > So, many of us have little 5 or 6 page lists, which give some of our favourite 
tunes aranged by the following criteria:
| >
| > Tune type (polka, jig, reel, etc)
| > Key (and modulations)
| > Bar length
| >
| > So which field in ABC do I use for bar structure? I have been putting this info 
into a J: header field - eg 32=8*2+8+8 for Galopede, 40=8*2+12*2 for Herbert Smith's 
Polka,
| > 40=8*2+8+8*2 for Waterloo Dance. Some might think this academic, but for practical 
musicians, it's the second thing you want to know about a tune.
|
| It's a good question. I've wished, several times, that I'd done such a
| thing from the start. And maybe one day I'll get round to it, but in the
| meantime I've occasionally cheated, with things like "R:32-bar Jig";
| which is better than nothing, but not the Right Way.

I've often thought of this, too. It does seem like these two could be
combined in a form like:
  R: Jig 32=8*2+8+8
This  would  have  the  advantage  that programs looking only for the
basic rhythm's name would find it where they expect it, and  programs
wanting  more details could look at the rest and try to make sense of
it.

OTOH, the modifier first makes more sense in English and  many  other
languages.  Thus, I have a number of tunes with rhythms like:
  R: Boda-polska

I like to include the hyphen to separate the modifier  off  from  the
basic rhythm, though Swedes would of course not use the hyphen.

In any case, I'd also have the criticism that I often  want  to  know
more  about the internal rhythm of measures, so I can find tunes that
truly match.  Thus, single and double  jigs  often  don't  work  well
together,  for the same reason that marches and reels don't work well
together.  I have a "strathspey" directory that includes  tunes  used
under  that  name  at  Scottish dances, but it's a jumbled mixture of
true strathspeys with shottishes and airs.  They come from a  lot  of
sources,  and the borderlines are fuzzy, making it difficult to label
them so that you can select just one kind of tune.

I'd imagine that most rhythmic terms in most musical styles have  the
same sort of problem.  I don't know how to handle it well.


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