> I know abfab is the lower-layer, but I thought the discussion was related 
> with the possible need to protect the abfab lower-layer BEFORE the EAP 
> authentication.


You can protect parts of the conversation that happen before the EAP 
authentication, you just can't verify them until afterwards.

There was a separate question in the meeting about protecting application data 
that happens before EAP authentication (such as SASL mechanism negotiation), I 
suggested that you could use GSS channel bindings to protect this. Or you could 
restart the negotiation within an integrity protected channel.

-- Luke
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