> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alejandro Perez Mendez [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 12:03 AM
> To: Alan DeKok
> Cc: Jim Schaad; [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [abfab] FYI: New Version Notification for draft-perez-radext-
> radius-fragmentation-01.txt
> 
> 
> 
> El 04/03/12 08:10, Alan DeKok escribió:
> > Jim Schaad wrote:
> >> I have some comments on the draft.  However first let me say that I know
> next to nothing about RADIX having only briefly read it a couple of times and
> having not yet worked with it to any extent.
> >    Reviews are always welcome.
> >
> >> 1.  I think a discussion is in order about the issues of packing a radius
> message full in the presence of proxy intermediaries which might need room
> for adding and removing routing materials.  I don't know how many proxies
> are keep local state as oppose to just filling up the message with Proxy-State
> items and thus need space on the way back.  Also a discussion of removal
> and re-insertion of the T flag might be needed if the proxy fully assembles
> the message and then relays it in pieces.
> >    The simplest way to address that is to artificially lower the
> > RADIUS maximum packet size, as seen by the client.
> 
> Additionally, regarding the T flag removal/re-insertion comment, proxies are
> not allowed to perform RADIUS fragmentation on forwarded packets. It is a
> process performed end-to-end the RADIUS client and server.
> 

What happens for proxies that, for some reason - want to re-write the contents 
of packets.  For ABFAB I am specifically thinking of changing or mapping 
attributes in SAML assertions.


> >
> >> 2.   The Overview in section 2 does not discuss the fact that a new set of
> state items might also added to the message.  This changes the limit of how
> many bytes can be placed into the fragmented packets.
> >    Yes.
> >
> >> 3. nit - in para #3 of overview you use the word truncated and truncation.
> I think a better word set might be partitioned and partitioning.  Also ensure
> that fragmentation is used strictly for the process in radius-extensions.  I
> have not found any cases yet were it is not but will try and remember to
> look.
> >>
> >> 4.  I am not sure if positioning of the more-data-pending packet is
> significant.  The introduction says it comes last but nothing to that effect 
> is
> said in section 3.
> >>
> >> 5.   Section 6 implies that the order of items in a set of fragmented 
> >> packets
> might need to be changed based on the ability of items to be in the packet.
> For example if the Access-Accept packet had been = Data1[M],
> Data2[M]...Data 10, User-Name, Service-Type[X], Framed-IP-Address the
> order would need to be changed in the original partitioning.  This should be
> mentioned someplace other than just in the "examples" section.  It implies
> that a general use piece of code to do this will need to have the table built 
> in,
> and potentially extended as new items are added, rather than just being
> coded correctly in the specific packet type code.
> >    Attribute ordering is explicitly *not* required in RADIUS.
> >
> >> 6.  What if any indications does a server have that the client will be 
> >> able to
> deal with the partitioned message other than it will either fail or get 
> confused
> depending on what set of attributes are in the first packet and what it needs
> and feels it can ignore.
> >    That's an open area for discussion.  RADIUS doesn't have capability
> > negotiation, so it's hard to do.
> >
> >    Alan DeKok.

_______________________________________________
abfab mailing list
[email protected]
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/abfab

Reply via email to