On 05/22/2013 11:48 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> If my understanding is correct we agreed that only section 3 of 
> draft-ietf-abfab-eapapplicability updates the EAP applicability statement in 
> [RFC3748].  

That may be true, but that means that the RFC resulting from this
I-D should have an "updates" relationship with 3748. So we ought
fix that before IETF LC, just in case.

S.

> Regards,
> Yoshihiro Ohba
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Stephen Farrell
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 2:17 AM
> To: Sam Hartman
> Cc: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [abfab] AD review of eap-applicability
> 
> 
> Folks,
> 
> Given Sam's response and that nobody disagreed I think it'd be best to update 
> the updates thing before IETF LC so I've marked this as revised I-D needed.
> 
> Please yell at me if that's wrong. Even better, shoot out that revised I-D 
> and I'll start IETF LC.
> 
> Thanks,
> S.
> 
> On 05/15/2013 11:47 PM, Sam Hartman wrote:
>>>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Farrell <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>     Stephen> - Should this update 3748? Current IESG thinking (i.e.
>>     Stephen> want something else and someone will badger you:-) is that
>>     Stephen> if a reader of 3748 really ought also read this, then this
>>     Stephen> should update 3748; if its ok for a reader of 3748 to not
>>     Stephen> have to read this, then this shouldn't update 3748. I'd
>>     Stephen> guess that this should update 3847 but am ok if you say
>>     Stephen> not. I'd like to just double check that before IETF LC
>>     Stephen> since someone might want a 2nd LC otherwise.  (Safest is to
>>     Stephen> include it during IETF LC and the updates thing could
>>     Stephen> always be dropped later.)
>>
>> This was brought up in WGLC.
>> The conclusion  I recall is that we should update 3748 and the 
>> document would be changed prior to IETF LC:-)
>>
>>     Stephen> - Mentioning the WG name in the abstract is usually wrong
>>     Stephen> since the WG will go away. Maybe say what abfab does
>>     Stephen> instead, e.g. like the charter does and say "...usage of
>>     Stephen> the EAP protocol as part of a federated identity mechanism
>>     Stephen> for use by Internet protocols not based on HTML/HTTP, such
>>     Stephen> as for instance IMAP, XMPP, SSH and NFS."  (Same for later
>>     Stephen> mentions of the wg.)
>>
>>
>> I think we're calling the overall architecture ABFAB as well.  so I 
>> think we're mentioning the technology (which is gss-eap, plus a way of 
>> describing naming of attributes, plus SAML rules for RADIUS, plus 
>> potentially things in the future) not the WG.
>>
>>     Stephen> - s4, RECOMMENDS use of [I-D.ietf-emu-crypto-bind], doesn't
>>     Stephen> that make it a normative reference?
>>     Stephen> _______________________________________________ abfab
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>>     Stephen> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/abfab
>>
>> Except the emu draft doesn't define a protocol.
>> It describes a mechanism you  might want to include when designing EAP 
>> methods.
>>
>> So perhaps recommends using that mechanism when available in EAP 
>> methods or some such.
>>
>> --Sam
>>
>>
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