On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 11:54:16AM -0000, Tomas Frydrych wrote:
> > solution.  If the user is in a position to understand this dialog,
> > then they probably didn't need the UI translated in the first place.
> > While that may not be true in the general case, it's definitely true
> > that having everything in the dialog in chinese would make it very
> > hard for a russian speaker to select their correct language.  
> 
> If you do not localise the strings, then in an English interface you 
> will be only able to display correctly the names of languages that 
> can be expressed using Latin1; you will not be able to display 
> correctly the translated equivalents for Czech, Slovak, Russian, 
> Bulgarian, Belorussian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Serbian, Chinese, 
> Japanese, Korean, Arabic, Hebrew, Thai, etc. What's worse, most 
> of these will not even be recognisable. Yes, the Russian user will 
> not be able to select Russian if the whole dialogue is in Chinese, 
> but then the Russian user will not see the dialogue in Chinese, 
> because unless she can read Chinese, she will not be runing under 
> a Chinese locale, she will be runing under a Russian loacale, and 
> everything will make perfect sense to her if, *and only if*, the whole 
> dialogue is in Russian.
> 
> If this does not make it clear that we have to localise the names of 
> the languages, then I give up. Perhaps some of the non-English, 
> not-latin1 users will pick this up, because their interface is going to 
> be screwed worst (I think particularly of those who's charsets do 
> not contain latin characters, because they will not be able even to 
> display languages like English, German or French), I rest my case, 
> I have written more emails on this than is healthy.

Yes, these are serious problems, and anyone who thinks they are easy
is deluding themselves.  I don't know what we should do about this
problem.  I'm just pointing out that localizing everything doesn't
work for all cases either.  So, we either have to choose a non-optimal
solution, or come up with something else.
           
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