Definitely begs for a VPN solution. Joe will set up a demo for you soon.

Zsolt


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Zsolt Nagykaldi, PhD
Assistant Professor of Research
Clinical IT Specialist

University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center
Department of Family & Preventive Medicine
900 N.E. 10th Street
Oklahoma City, OK 73104

Phone: (405) 271-8000 ext.1-32208
Fax:     (405) 271-2784

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From: owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov on behalf of George Estes
Sent: Wed 9/12/2007 8:56 AM
To: Joseph Stone
Cc: ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov
Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] NAT and bridge traffic


Thanks Joe,

  We are helping a large number of K-12 schools setup Access Grid nodes in 
their schools.  Many of these schools are using NAT.  We've found some of the 
network administrators at the schools don't have the ability, or willingness, 
to re-configure the NAT router.  So we looking for an alternative.  Any help 
you could give would be appreciated.

Thanks,
George

At 06:21 PM 9/11/2007 -0500, Joseph Stone wrote:


   Yes.  I've kicked around the idea with Zsolt about doing a session over the 
AG, perhaps in my venue server.  Caveat: It currently has been tested and is 
set up for 2.4
   I think I now know how to make it work with a 3.0 environment but would need 
time to get it there.  I can discuss this more.
   My current boss needs to know I plan to share the experience before I can 
solidly commit.

   Joe

   On Sep 11, 2007, at 3:35 PM, George Estes wrote:



      Joe,

        Would you be willing to share your experience in setting up the 
OpenVPN/Bridge?

      Thanks,
      George


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         OpenVPN allows you to put your remote client computer "physically" and 
very securely on an ad-hoc local network. Therefore, as the most simple setup, 
you can run an OpenVPN server on the same machine that you use for the bridge 
server and handle remote clients as local network clients, allowing access to 
the bridge for a range of local IPs only (e.g. 10.10.x.x), in addition to your 
regular bridge access over the Internet. For intricate technical details of 
fine-tuning the bridge server, I would encourage you to contact Joe at 
stone...@umn.edu<mailto:stone...@umn.edu>.


         Zsolt


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         Assistant Professor of Research
         Clinical IT Specialist

         University of <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = 
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         Department of Family & Preventive Medicine
         900 N.E. 10th Street
         Oklahoma City, OK 73104

         Phone: (405) 271-8000 ext.1-32208
         Fax:     (405) 271-2784


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         From: George Estes [mailto:ges...@ncsa.uiuc.edu]
         Sent: Tue 9/11/2007 12:08 PM
         To: Nagykaldi, Zsolt F. (HSC)
         Cc: ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov<mailto:ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov>
         Subject: RE: [AG-TECH] NAT and bridge traffic

         Zsolt,

           What's the basic setup for using OpenVPN with a bridge?

         Thanks,
         George

         At 10:46 AM 9/11/2007 -0500, Nagykaldi, Zsolt F. \(HSC\) wrote:




            It is generally a pain in the back to establish connections to 
bridge servers in a NAT -ed environment. Port forwarding is one of your 
options, however there are a number of issues: 1) A large number of ports may 
need to be forwarded depending on the bridge setup and how many bridges you 
want to access (security implications); 2) Some older Cisco firewalls without a 
decent GUI may give you a hard time to create the appropriate rules to do what 
you need.

            My suggestion is to forget about ports and use OpenVPN on the 
bridge and the client machine to go through the NAT -ed network and everything 
in between your computer and the bridge. We have a significant experience with 
this and pretty good results. Your absolute expert (who came up with the 
combined bridge/Open VPN server solution) is Joe Stone 
(stone...@umn.edu<mailto:stone...@umn.edu>). I can also help, if needed.

            Zsolt


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            Zsolt Nagykaldi, PhD<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = 
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            Assistant Professor of Research
            Clinical IT Specialist

            University of <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = 
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Oklahoma Health Sciences Center
            Department of Family & Preventive Medicine
            900 N.E. 10th Street
            Oklahoma City, OK 73104

            Phone: (405) 271-8000 ext.1-32208
            Fax:     (405) 271-2784


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            From: owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov<mailto:owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov> 
on behalf of George Estes
            Sent: Tue 9/11/2007 9:00 AM
            To: ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov<mailto:ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov>
            Subject: [AG-TECH] NAT and bridge traffic

            Hello,

              Could someone with experience in this area  tell me the 
issues/problems with receiving traffic from a bridge server if I'm behind a 
NAT.  I've looked through the ag-tech mailing list and there's talk of problems 
but I can't find specifics.

            Thanks,
            George

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