Although I am all for programming and in-depth understanding of technology 
myself, I realized that the problem with the "geeks only" approach in the real 
world is that many organizations with a limited technical background need 
either a standard or a fool-proof setup for reliable day-to-day operation . The 
current open-source AG architecture is geared toward large, well-equipped, and 
well manned nodes where AG administrators can and are willing to fill in all 
these technical gaps. In reality however, the AG community is rapidly shifting 
toward a much more diverse user group where users of different shapes and sizes 
would like to participate with very substantial differences in experience, 
technical capabilities, and available infrastructure. I my opinion, the 
open-source AG solution (that has great potential and a bright possible future) 
will survive long-term only, if we are willing and able to accept the 
paradigm-shift and produce more solutions that are at least close to 
"turn-key", especially regarding new security challenges. A great example is 
the OpenVPN / Bridge Server hybrid I mentioned, developed by Joe Stone.


Zsolt


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From: owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov on behalf of Thomas D. Uram
Sent: Tue 9/11/2007 2:11 PM
To: Jeremy Mann
Cc: George Estes; ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov
Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] NAT and bridge traffic



You can use a narrowed port range by looking at the port range used by the 
bridge
you want to use.  This is found in the VenueClient under 
Tools->Preferences->Bridging;
each bridge is listed with its related port range (the rightmost column in the 
list, you may
need to stretch the preferences window to see it).

The default port range for unicast bridges is 50000-52000, but some bridges do 
use
alternate port ranges so you should check.

Tom


On 9/11/07 10:13 AM, Jeremy Mann wrote:

   George, I've used AG from home several times and I'm behind a Linksys
   router. All that you have to do is forward the bridge ports of the
   Bridge Server to your internal IP. Generally, I forward 30000 to 65535
   to my internal IP. Now if you're behind NAT in a campus environment it
   may be a bit tricky to get the networking folks to forward those ports
   to your machine.


   On 9/11/07, George Estes <ges...@ncsa.uiuc.edu><mailto:ges...@ncsa.uiuc.edu> 
wrote:


      Hello,

        Could someone with experience in this area  tell me the issues/problems 
with receiving traffic from a bridge server if I'm behind a NAT.  I've looked 
through the ag-tech mailing list and there's talk of problems but I can't find 
specifics.

      Thanks,
      George






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