OK. It could fork rat and vic only when I use the -x options (as stated in the help). I guess that explains why I could not have vic and rat start when I just clicked on the agvcr icon. Please correct me if I am wrong.
-Cheers, Monika > It should because they are in my PATH. > > > > > Does the app know where your vic and rat exes are? Are > > they in your PATH? > > > > > > _ _ _ > > > > Zsolt Nagykaldi, PhD > > Research Associate, Clinical IT Specialist > > University Of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center > > Department Of Family And Preventive Medicine > > Oklahoma Center For Family Medicine Research > > > > 900 NE 10th Street > > Oklahoma City, OK 73104 > > Phone: (405) 271-8000 Ext.:1-32212 > > Fax: (405) 271-1682 > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: monika.k.rabari...@ccaix.jsums.edu > > [mailto:monika.k.rabari...@ccaix.jsums.edu] Sent: Thu > > 11/10/2005 2:37 PM To: Nagykaldi, Zsolt F. (HSC); Derek > > Piper; Wachtel,Robert L Cc: Access Grid Technical > > mailing list Subject: RE: [AG-TECH] Release of AGVCR - > > recording AG sessions > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Zsolt. Your trick works for me too when I start > > agvcr from the command line. I still need to figure out > > why rat and vic don't start when I run agvcr from the > > icon. I tried with rat and vic in same dir as agvcr, > > then with rat and vic in the path. > > > > Derek, this is great application! > > > > Cheers, > > Monika > > > > > > > > A simple trick I used was to play back vic and rat > > > streams on "localhost" after you start vic and rat > > > manually, with the same audio and video ports. E.g. > > > you start rat -- assuming rat is added to your PATH > > > variable -- (rat.exe 127.0.0.1/32210) and vic (vic.exe > > > 127.0.0.1/32214). Using "localhost" and the same UDP > > > ports in the player you can play your recorded session > > > on your computer. > > > Zsolt > > > > > > _ _ _ > > > > > > Zsolt Nagykaldi, PhD > > > Research Associate, Clinical IT Specialist > > > University Of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center > > > Department Of Family And Preventive Medicine > > > Oklahoma Center For Family Medicine Research > > > > > > 900 NE 10th Street > > > Oklahoma City, OK 73104 > > > Phone: (405) 271-8000 Ext.:1-32212 > > > Fax: (405) 271-1682 > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Derek Piper [mailto:dcpi...@indiana.edu] > > > Sent: Thu 11/10/2005 11:25 AM > > > To: Wachtel, Robert L > > > Cc: monika.k.rabari...@ccaix.jsums.edu; Nagykaldi, > > > Zsolt F. (HSC); Access Grid Technical mailing list > > > Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] Release of AGVCR - recording AG > > sessions > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Yes, I should probably note that problem in > > > the 'known issues' stuff. Problem is I wrote a lot of > > > this code a few months ago and only just recently did > > > the website, so in testing with all of you fine folks > > > I'm saying 'oh yea!' and trying to catch up on the > > > documentation ... oops :) > > > Now, you *should* be able to immediately play > > > back to the same venue you recorded from, while the > > > AGtk VIC and RAT are running. This is true when AGVCR > > > is running from Linux. It allows this because AGVCR is > > > altering the SSRCs in every packet sent out on > > > playback, thus since it appears to VIC and RAT as if > > > new sources have 'appeared', then all works as it > > > should. Under Windows I found that if I enabled this > > > 'packet munging' for audio streams then it resulted in > > > no audio being played at all - regardless of venue, > > > whereas under Linux it worked fine. I will > > > reinvestigate this but under Windows builds it's > > > disabled for audio streams since the behavior was > > > deemed 'unreliable', and I wanted to be sure that in > > > both builds the stream output worked for most cases > > > where a recording is played back at a > > > different time from the original. In your test here, > > > it would work in the same venue if participants > > > reloaded the venue, since then VIC and RAT would > choose new SSRCs for their packets and everyone would be > > > happy. The garbled audio in this case is from more > > > than one source having the same SSRC, which is against > > the spec, i.e. bad. > > > > Derek > > > > > > Wachtel, Robert L wrote: > > > > I just completed a test session with the folks at > > > > ANL. Recording worked well. Playback did not do so > > > > well until I switched venues from the one in which I > > > > made the original recording. Playback then worked > > > well. Just as with recording playback does require you > > > > to have a multicast session active and join into the > > > > multicast group with the configuration in AGVCR. > > > > > > > > Playback while still in the original venue caused > > > > broken audio from the other remote sites and I could > > > > not hear any of the playback audio though I could > > > see the video playback as well as the continuing live > > > > > video. This is on a Windows XP Pro SP2 in > > > multicast. > > > > > Bob W. > > > > 243-2857 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov > > > > [mailto:owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf Of > > > > monika.k.rabari...@ccaix.jsums.edu Sent: Thursday, > > > > November 10, 2005 9:42 AM To: Nagykaldi,Zsolt F. > > > > (HSC) ; dcpi...@indiana.edu Cc: Access Grid > > > > Technical mailing list Subject: RE: [AG-TECH] > > > Release of AGVCR - recording AG sessions > > > > > Also, when I start agvcr from the command line and > > > > play back the recorded file, vic and rat start but > > > > showing the current video and audio in the venue, > > > instead of the recorded ones. > > > > > > > > >>Hi All, > > > >> > > > >>I am currently trying it on XP Pro SP2 with > > > multicast. >>Recording seems to work fine (the file > > > got some size). >>When playing back, I don't see vic > > > and rat starting. >> > > > >>I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Attached is a > > > >>snaphot. Note the "File Offset: .....out of 0 bytes" > > > ???? >> > > > >>TIA > > > >>Monika > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >>>Win XP Pro SP2. Works like a charm in multicast. > > > >>> > > > >>>Zsolt > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>_ _ _ > > > >>> > > > >>>Zsolt Nagykaldi, PhD > > > >>>Research Associate, Clinical IT Specialist > > > >>>University Of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center > > > >>>Department Of Family And Preventive Medicine > > > >>>Oklahoma Center For Family Medicine Research > > > >>> > > > >>>900 NE 10th Street > > > >>>Oklahoma City, OK 73104 > > > >>>Phone: (405) 271-8000 Ext.:1-32212 > > > >>>Fax: (405) 271-1682 > > > >>> > > > >>>________________________________ > > > >>> > > > >>>From: dcpi...@indiana.edu > > > [mailto:dcpi...@indiana.edu] >>>Sent: Wed 11/9/2005 > > > 7:07 PM >>>To: Nagykaldi, Zsolt F. (HSC) > > > >>>Cc: Access Grid Technical mailing list > > > >>>Subject: RE: [AG-TECH] Release of AGVCR - recording > > > AG >>>sessions > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>Hi Zsolt, > > > >>> > > > >>>Yea, that's one thing noted in the 'known issues', > > > the >>>problem with recording from unicast. I'm glad > > > to hear >>>AGConnector helped, I like that program. > > > There's some >>>old code in there that I wrote for > > > trying to send data >>>to QuickBridge (since it seems > > > to need to receive >>>something in order to send data > > > back to you) but I never >>>did get it working to any > > > satisfaction. >>> > > > >>>Since I'm replying to all I was aware (as is > > > typical >>>after announcing something works) that > > > under Windows now >>>it appears to have problems with > > > reading or displaying >>>the file length, something > > > for me to look at tomorrow. >>> > > > >>>Growing pains I think, I've been rewriting a lot of > > > it >>>(under Linux for the most part) in the last few > > > weeks as >>>I've considered more things that I wanted > > > to add, and lo >>>today I 'got the nod' to release it. > > > So I thought I'd >>>let everyone take a look instead > > > of me sitting on it a >>>moment longer. This may be > > > good and bad , but as long as >>>everyone treats it as > > > 'alpha' for now until more testing >>>is done then I > > > think we'll all be good. I do not think >>>the file > > > format will need to change, given all that I >>>have > > > in my 'future plans' , so any recordings made now > > > >>>will work in later versions. If for some reason it > > > does, >>>I will make available the converter program I > > > have used >>>to convert previous recordings to the new > > > format. >>> >>>Thanks for trying it out, incidentally, > > > what version did >>>you use, Windows or Linux? > > > >>> > > > >>>Derek > > > >>> > > > >>>Quoting "Nagykaldi, Zsolt F. (HSC)" > > > >>><zsolt-nagyka...@ouhsc.edu>: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>Fantastic Derek, thanks! One thing. In bridged > > > unicast >>>>the recorder can not establish connection > > > with the IPs >>>>and ports listed. However, in > > > multicast (even with the >>>>AG Connector) it rocks! > > > >>>>Zsolt > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>_ _ _ > > > >>>> > > > >>>>Zsolt Nagykaldi, PhD > > > >>>>Research Associate, Clinical IT Specialist > > > >>>>University Of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center > > > >>>>Department Of Family And Preventive Medicine > > > >>>>Oklahoma Center For Family Medicine Research > > > >>>> > > > >>>>900 NE 10th Street > > > >>>>Oklahoma City, OK 73104 > > > >>>>Phone: (405) 271-8000 Ext.:1-32212 > > > >>>>Fax: (405) 271-1682 > > > >>>> > > > >>>>________________________________ > > > >>>> > > > >>>>From: owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov on behalf of Derek > > > >>>>Piper Sent: Wed 11/9/2005 2:57 PM > > > >>>>To: Access Grid Technical mailing list > > > >>>>Subject: [AG-TECH] Release of AGVCR - recording AG > > > >>> > > > >>>sessions > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Hi all, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I'm happy to announce that finally I've > > > been >>>>given the go-ahead to release AGVCR to the > > > community. >>>>It was a program I started writing > > > around January and >>>>it was ready for release in a > > > workable incarnation >>> > > > >>>some time in June. However, due to possible > > > 'intellecual >>> > > > >>>>property' concerns from 'those that deal with > > > those >>>>things' at IU, I was unable to release it > > > back then. I >>>>declined to mention it to the > > > community at large until >>> > > > >>>this release so as not to 'tease' people with a > > > product >>> > > > >>>>they could not get. I won't get into griping about > > > >>>>that on this list :> Some of you have known about > > > this >>>>program earlier since we have had AccessGrid > > > meetings >>>>that I have recorded. For those parties > > > concerned, we >>> > > > >>>can communicate off-list on the best way to get the > > > >>> > > > >>>> recordings to you. AGVCR is a program to > > > >>>>record and play back the RTP/RTCP stream that an > > > >>>>AccessGrid conference uses. The amount of data it > > > >>>>gathers is certainly non-trivial, a few hours of > > > >>>>recording with a number of participants can easily > > > >>>>reach a few gigabytes in size. Timing and minimal > > > >>>> overhead information is embedded in the > > > file >>> > > > >>>for accurate playback. The website for the project > > > is >>> > > > >>>> here: > > > > >>> > > > >>>http://iri.informatics.indiana.edu/~dcpiper/agvcr/ > > > > >>> > > > >>>> I invite anyone interested to take a look, > > > >>>>download and use it to see > > > >>>>what you think. I welcome feedback, please bear in > > > >>>>mind though that it is still being actively worked > > > on. >>>>A number of changes have been made of late, so > > > testing >>>>has not been as extensive as it probably > > > should be, >>> > > > >>>but that's another reason to get it out there. The > > > >>> > > > >>>> website has source for Linux/Unix and a > > > precompiled >>>>binary for Windows. I may add > > > pre-compiled binaries >>> > > > >>>for popular Linuxes if there is interest. > > > > >>> > > > >>>> Thanks, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Derek > > > >>>> > > > >>>>-- > > > >>>>Derek Piper - dcpi...@indiana.edu - (812) 856 0111 > > > >>>>IRI 323, School of Informatics > > > >>>>Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>[Attachment: agvcr.jpg] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Derek Piper - dcpi...@indiana.edu - (812) 856 0111 > > > IRI 323, School of Informatics > > > Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
