Hi Arnstein,

Just an FYI - Oracle released a new Java Access Bridge - version 2.0.2 - that supports 64bit Windows.  It doesn't include any installer.  You can get it from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/tech/index-jsp-136191.html

That said, I fully agree with Jamie - it is very welcome news that IBM plans to contribute their Symphony IAccessible2 implementation code to the Apache OpenOffice.org project!


Regards,

Peter

On 7/20/2011 2:45 AM, Arnstein Skåra wrote:
Hi.

I second that. We simply stopped installing JAB together with our 
products, and give support to make it work per request instead.

Here is a list of issues we've noted about the last installer made by Sun:
1. It uses a hardcoded path for "Program Files" rendering it 
incompatible with 64bit Windows.
2. The installer takes a very long time to finish, since it will search 
all your drives for the JRE. Took about 12 min on my 1 year old dev 
machine with a 80gb hdd (7200RPM)!
3. The search dialog looks buggy.
You can make your own installer though. When it comes to OOo, the most 
unfortunate design choice is that accessibility has to be enabled 
manually in the settings.

Even more interesting; IA2 can be used to replace the need to use UNO, 
for such simple tasks as finding the caret and manipulating the text in 
the document. UNO is in itself huge and complex, especially for such 
trivial tasks.

- Arnstein


On 20.07.2011 01:07, James Teh wrote:
Hi.

This is great news. It'd certainly be good to see Symphony's IA2 code
merged into OOo, as well as further improvements to the code beyond
that. Currently, OOo's reliance on Java Access Bridge for accessibility
in Windows makes it extremely difficult and tedious for many users to
set up. In addition, there are many inherent limitations and bugs in
both JAB and OOo's support for it. For these reasons, we currently do
not recommend OOo for most NVDA users, but instead advise them to use
Symphony. I'm also hoping that this code will benefit from a more open
development process.

Jamie

On 20/07/2011 1:57 AM, Steve Lee wrote:
No doubt some of you saw the news that IBM have given Symphony to Apache.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9218421/IBM_bequeaths_Symphony_code_to_Apache?taxonomyId=88

This is of interest here as James Teh recently stated that Symphony
has a good IA2 implementation and Rob Weir has confirmed the IA2 work
is part of what will be contributed to Apache. Malte Timmerman has
offered to provide some details of the work.

Ross Gardler, is a mentor of Apache OOo, and also my new business
partner, so we are in a good position to help OOo accessibility remain
a priority..

I'm interested to hear what people think is important as we move forward.

Steve Lee
OpenDirective.com
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