I've been discussing this with Rich: rather than creating IATable3 and
having summary return a VARIANT which could then return either a BSTR
(for HTML) or an object (for other non-browser implementations), a
solution with less impact would be to deprecate summary and add a
comment that describedBy should be used when the description is provided
by an object (or tree of objects) or accDescription otherwise.  That
seems acceptable for non-browser implementations as well.  What do you
think?

Pete

On 8/23/2011 8:50 AM, Pete Brunet wrote:
> For the 1.3 release, let me know if anyone is opposed to creating
> IATable3 with summary and caption changed to return a VARIANT instead of
> an IUnknown.
>
> On 8/22/2011 9:48 AM, Brett Lewis wrote:
>> Hi,
>> What prompted this thread for me is my trying to obtain caption and
>> summary via the IAccessibleTable interface.
>> By convention using name and description is fine but doesn't really seem
>> to correctly implement IAccessibleTable and is only somewhat intuitive.
>> I like the idea of having the get_summary and get_Caption return a
>> variant with either the text or the IAccessible.
>> Brett
>>  
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alexander Surkov [mailto:[email protected]] 
>> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 8:58 PM
>> To: James Teh
>> Cc: IAccessible2 mailing list; Brett Lewis
>> Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] HTML table summary mapping to IA2
>>
>> Hi, Jamie. It appears AT want to get summary and caption (not a name or
>> description since they can be different).
>>
>> Brett, do you have scenarios to share?
>>
>> Thank you.
>> Alex.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:42 PM, James Teh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> Why are accName/accDescription insufficient?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jamie
>>>
>>> On 9/08/2011 1:36 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>> IATable2 provides caption and summary properties that return 
>>>> accessible objects. HTML table summary is provided by @summary 
>>>> attribute so there's no accessible object that's created from DOM 
>>>> element. This can be workarounded by artificial accessible object 
>>>> creation that is attached or not attached to the tree but this 
>>>> complicates implementation and I would try to avoid it. Can we extend
>>>> the IAccessibleTable2 by summaryText and captionText attributes or 
>>>> introduce summary and caption object attributes on table accessible 
>>>> if interface change is not desired for this?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> Alexander.
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