Hi Joanie,

One issue is that if we were to say indeterminate on a range we don't know
if that is the current value or the max value - at least in the case of
group position. If we are to define indeterminate we need to state what it
applies to.

Rich


Rich Schwerdtfeger



From:   Joanmarie Diggs <[email protected]>
To:     [email protected]
Date:   09/29/2014 11:44 AM
Subject:        [Accessibility-ia2] STATE_INDETERMINATE as a means to indicate
            things like unknowable set size?
Sent by:        [email protected]



Hey all.

Given a large data set where the set size is not known (e.g. gmail's "1
of about 120"), we need a way to be able to communicate the known set
size along with the fact that the total is not (yet) known. One proposal
has been to expose this via something like "120+". The problem with that
is it means most of the time set size is a number, except for when it's
a string one needs to parse. Seems like a less-than-ideal situation to me.

In ATK, we happily have STATE_INDETERMINATE which seems like it would
fit the bill nicely, making it possible for quantifiable things like set
size to remain numbers and giving implementors a means to indicate the
size is indeterminate. In chatting with Alex Surkov about this, he
seemed to think this was a reasonable approach. The only "problem" was
that the ATK docs specifically said this state was for tri-state
checkboxes in the mixed state. I just solved that with new docs. This
change has just been committed. [1] So we're good.

What can we do to make this happen in IA2. After all, Surkov doesn't
like it when our two platforms diverge. ;)

--joanie

[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737602
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