The problem with the name computation is that:

If you use it to compute a name only and then type over it you lose the
hint. ... e.g. a placeholder value of MMDDYY. The AT can always ask for the
placeholder value.

Rich


Rich Schwerdtfeger



From:   Alexander Surkov <[email protected]>
To:     Joseph Scheuhammer <[email protected]>
Cc:     IAccessible2 mailing list
            <[email protected]>, Steve Faulkner
            <[email protected]>
Date:   05/01/2015 09:20 AM
Subject:        Re: [Accessibility-ia2] placeholder mapping
Sent by:        [email protected]



So it seems like we all agree to introduce placeholder object attribute in
IAccessible2. IA2 spec doesn't define markup mappings so it doesn't have to
say about HTML5 placeholder and ARIA aria-placeholder attributes. Anyway,
it doesn't prevent us from discussing it here :) So are there benefits in
changing of current HTML5 placeholder mappings into accessible name and
description?

Btw, Joseph, I didn't really suggested to change GTK+ mappings :)

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Joseph Scheuhammer <[email protected]>
wrote:
  On 2015-04-29 7:48 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
   I support the idea that the browser should find a best match for
   accessible name and description. Btw, current version of HTML a11y spec
   agrees on it [1]. After all there's backward compatibility issue If
   placeholder is exposed leaving accessible name blank.

   [1]
   
http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/html-aam/html-aam.html#input-type-text-input-type-password-input-type-search-input-type-tel-input-type-email-input-type-url-and-textarea-element-accessible-name-calculation

  That's not backward compatible with the GNOME desktop (GTK+), where
  placeholder text is not mapped to an empty accessible name.  Thus, there
  is now a mismatch between desktop widgets and widgets within a web page,
  on one desktop.


  --
  ;;;;joseph.

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