On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Joseph Scheuhammer <cl...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> Btw, Joseph, I didn't really suggested to change GTK+ mappings :) >> > > Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to imply that. The point was that the mapping > for placeholder for GTK (desktop) widgets is inconsistent with widgets in > webpages, and that the HTML mapping spec is not backward compatible with > that. That might be ok. I even think that AT can have handle both scenarios by same script. In Windows world there's no way (yet) to get a placeholder so I can hardly see that being consistent with GTK+ as an option for them. If we did that then we would regressed the web. Btw, is it a normal case in GTK+ to have widgets with placeholder and no name? > Put another way: the proposed mapping of aria-placeholder is backward > compatible with GTK mappings. > What is proposed mapping? placeholder object attribute and no name/description? I'd say aria-placeholder should be rather compatible with HTML5 placeholder than GTK. Joanie wrote: > > FWIW, it was made years ago and by several developers (which I point out >> simply because this isn't something I just decided for this new mapping >> which we could turn around and change in order to be closely synced). >> >> changing it there now obviously isn't an option. In that case, >>> this discussion is purely academic for you. >>> >> As long as Alex agrees, then you are correct regarding it being purely >> academic for me. >> > > There might be a sense in which it isn't purely academic. *If* we decide > that aria-placeholder is mapped to the acc name or acc description in > certain cases, then we should avoid making exceptions based on the a11y > platform. The accessible name spec would change near step 2G [1], to > something like: > > "Otherwise, if the current node has a non-empty aria-placeholder > attribute, return the value of aria-placeholder". > > But not: > > "Otherwise, if the current node has a non-empty aria-placeholder > attribute, and the AAPI is not ATK/AT-SPI, return the value of > aria-placeholder". > > > [1] http://w3c.github.io/aria/accname-aam/accname-aam.html#step2G > > > -- > ;;;;joseph. > > 'Array(16).join("wat" - 1) + " Batman!"' > - G. Bernhardt - > >
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