Niklas,
Thanks for your message, as well as for your work in trying to improve Calc's 
accessibility.  I added a comment in bug 81112; I'm not certain if it will 
prove helpful or if it hasn't told you anything you don't already know.  While 
I'm not a mouse user, I tried using f2 to edit a cell and then to press escape 
to return to the worksheet.  However, NVDA is still not reading the cell data 
or coordinates as I use arrow keys to move through the spreadsheet.
As you continue to work on this issue, I am at your service if you're looking 
for users to test new builds.


-----Original Message-----
From: Niklas Johansson [mailto:sleeping.pil...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 11:35 AM
To: David Goldfield; accessibility@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Calc and Accessibility

Hi
Two things, first:
I noticed that after I enter a cells edit mode by double clicking the mouse and 
then escape, I actually get reports of cell coordinates and cell values when I 
use the arrow keys. I don't now exactly what gets initialized when I double 
click on a cell but I'll keep digging.

Secondly:
I did a patch for the problem with zero being announced and it has been pushed 
to master. It would be nice if somebody could verify that it actually works 
especially if you could test with another Windows screen reader than NVDA. Note 
that this is only pushed to master at this point. 
You can download and try out the patch here:
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@51-TDF/current/master~2014-10-19_01.56.13_LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Win_x86_en-US_de_ar_ja_qtz.msi

The focus issue is still not fixed so you need to use the workaround to double 
click a cell and pressing the escape button to get announcements. 
But after that you should be able to test that cell content other than 
numerical values are presented correctly.

Let's keep our fingers crossed that we can nail this focus issue soon.

Regards,
Niklas Johansson

David Goldfield skrev 2014-10-15 14:28:
> Hi.  While pressing the f2 key in Calc does provide cell coordinates, 
> pressing escape to return to the worksheet does not allow arrow keys to 
> announce any cell info.  What is odd, if this will be of any help, is that 
> OpenOffice works perfectly in NVDA.
> I can also tell you that it is important that NVDA users enable the "report 
> table cell coordinates" checkbox in the NVDA document settings checkbox.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Niklas Johansson [mailto:sleeping.pil...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:52 AM
> To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Calc and Accessibility
>
> V Stuart Foote skrev 2014-10-14 19:44:
>> Also when cells are empty NVDA sounds a Zero rather than blank--that is an 
>> NVDA issue.
> Hm... I'm not so sure it is a bug in NVDA. I'd rather think that it is an 
> issue in LibreOffice. It also seems related to the issue with only values 
> being announced. I believe that a big part of the issue lies within the fact 
> that the IA2 code from OpenOffice abuses the IAccessibleValue interface (that 
> should only return numerical values) by returning string values as well. It 
> also goes against OpenOffice/LibreOffice api (XAccessibleValue) which 
> probably was "fixed"
> on integration into LibreOffice leaving us in this unfortunate state of non 
> working accessibility in Calc on Windows.
>
> Regards,
> Niklas Johansson
>
>
>
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