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Hi,
based on the desktop environment in use, LibreOffice decides which
so-called VCL plugin it uses, but that can be overriden using an
environment variable.
Does ensuring you have Debian package libreoffice-gtk3 installed and
then starting LibreOffice with environment variable
SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gtk3 set make any difference?
Best regards,
Michael
On 2025-11-14 15:49, Tim Böttcher wrote:
Hi,
bit the bullet and upgraded from bookworm to trixie. I did not start from a
clean slate--I might try to do that next if this problem cannot get debugged,
but for now it looks like updating from the existing bookworm to trixie worked
fine.
LibreOffice is now at 25.2.3.2. Orca is also at 49.4 now.
The problem unfortunately persists across all LibreOffice programs. Is there any known
environment variable or the like I should export? Or is this perhaps a consequence of
"faking" a screen with Xorg dummy display? (Basically, I'm using a RaspBerry Pi
5 without an actual screen connected, since I don't need one).
Kind regards,
Tim Böttcher
Am 14.11.2025 um 13:30 schrieb Michael Weghorn <[email protected]>:
Hi,
this should be unrelated to Java. (At some point in the past, there was a Java
Accessibility Bridge that was responsible for making LibreOffice accessible,
but that hasn't been the case for quite a while already. For the gtk3 variant
of LibreOffice, ATK is used by now, and for the qt6/kf6 one, Qt implements the
AT-SPI2 logic directly.)
The LibreOffice version you're using is already a bit older. Is updating to current
Debian stable (Trixie) an option to see whether it "just works" there?
Best regards,
Michael
On 2025-11-14 13:12, Tim Böttcher wrote:
Hi,
I'm on Debian (Bookworm) running on a RaspBerry Pi 5, LibreOffice 7.4.7.2,
BRLTTY 6.8, Orca 48.7, MATE desktop.
When launching any LibreOffice program, such as LibreOffice writer, I can only
see the window titles, but nothing that happens within the program. Keyboard
input is getting passed through to the program correctly, e.g., CTRL+O triggers
the file picker, but said file picker is also inaccessible (i.e., I can only
see the window title).
As per my digging on the internet and conversations with assorted chatbots,
this is supposed to be a Java accessibility thing. However, none of the listed
fixes (notably editing /etc/java-17-openjdk/accessibility.properties) changes
anything. Exporting an environment variable with the relevant settings for
AtkWrapper gets picked up by Java correctly, but also doesn't make a
difference. Interestingly, even with Java completely purged from my system,
LibreOffice Writer still opens, so I suspect it bundles its own JRE and it's
possible that isn't receiving the proper accessibility instructions.
I'd appreciate any suggestions at this point because I'm stumped.
Thank you in advance and kind regards,
Tim Böttcher
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