Hi all. Spare cycles are hard for me to come by; spare systems are not. ;-) I'm downloading Sugar now and will try to take a look soon.
Take care. --joanie On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 09:32 -0700, Peter Korn wrote: > Hi Tomeu, gang, > > [I'm cc-ing Joanie Diggs, co-maintainer of Orca] > > I believe there are 6 key things that need to be done in/for Sugar to > enable use of the GNOME accessibility work for folks with vision > impairments. Others more expert in the specific details may > correct/amend my comments. I believe the 6 things are: > 1. The shift of AT-SPI from CORBA to DBUS (in process, not yet > completed, but builds of at-spi2 are in the GNOME code > repository and if someone would start playing and testing with > it on the OLPC, that'd be great!) > 2. Implementation of ATK by the Sugar UI components (this is the > accessibility API that screen readers like Orca use) > 3. Creating / adapting a magnifier service on Sugar for Orca. > This may be a fairly trivial port of gnome-mag (non-COMPOSITE > edition), or it may be a complete re-write > 4. Porting Orca to Sugar. This may be fairly trivial, or it may > involve a new Sugar-style GUI, etc. > 5. Adding theme support go Sugar for vision impairments - things > like a large-print theme, and inverse theme, etc. > 6. Ensure 100% keyboard operability of Sugar > > Tomeu - are there folks in sugar-devel who have cycles to work on > these things? > > > Regards, > > > Peter > > On 9/7/2010 12:49 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 20:15, Esteban Arias <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > no, I tested with gnome desktop. > > > > > > > Ok, I can help you get in touch with the GNOME team that works on > > accessibility if you want. They are very dedicated, friendly and > > talented bunch. Collabora and other companies also provide services > > related to accessibility and GNOME. > > > > But nobody else than us is going to fix accessibility in Sugar so > > that's why I'm asking if anybody here has interest in working on this. > > The first need is finding someone who can tell us what needs to be > > improved in Sugar so it can be used by people with no or very low > > vision. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tomeu > > > > > > > 2010/9/3 Tomeu Vizoso <[email protected]> > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 18:25, Esteban Arias <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > xo-1.0 | F11 | Dextrose version | Gnome desktop | orca 2.26.3 > > > > > > > > > > If I set: "run at startup" > > > > > orca run correctly. > > > > > > > > > Hi Esteban, > > > > > > > > to clarify, you configure orca in some way so it runs when sugar > > > > starts up and it reads what is on the screen? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Tomeu > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I excecute "orca" from Terminal, shows error: > > > > > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/mouse_review.py:189: Warning: > > > > > invalid > > > > > uninstantiatable type `(null)' in cast to `GdkDisplayX11' > > > > > self._mouseDwellTimeout(event.detail1, event.detail2) > > > > > > > > > > Displays Preferences dialog, but dont reads screen. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Esteban Arias. > > > > > > > > > > 2010/9/2 Tomeu Vizoso <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 14:51, Esteban Arias > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I install orca on xo 1.0 with gnome for f11. > > > > > > > If I config to start session with orca, runs ok. But if I execute > > > > > > > orca > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > terminal, dont run correctly: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Esteban, > > > > > > > > > > > > could be that your email arrived to us incomplete? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomeu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2010/9/1 [email protected] <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 14:10, Tomeu Vizoso > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 14:08, Esteban Arias > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi, > > > > > > > > > > > we can colaborate with this proyect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Excelent, have you tried already orca with Sugar? And with > > > > > > > > > > GNOME? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would say that the next step is for someone who knows how > > > > > > > > > orca > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > used to give it a try and file tickets for the biggest > > > > > > > > > issues. Not > > > > > > > > > sure we can make much more until then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The gnome guys mentioned this the other day and there's going > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > some more work done within gnome hopefully for F-14. So > > > > > > > > hopefully we > > > > > > > > should be looking better for that release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Esteban Arias > > > > > > > Investigación y Desarrollo - Plan Ceibal > > > > > > > Avda. Italia 6201 > > > > > > > Montevideo - Uruguay. > > > > > > > Tel.: 2601.57.73 Interno 2228 > > > > > > > E-mail : [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Esteban Arias > > > > > Investigación y Desarrollo - Plan Ceibal > > > > > Avda. Italia 6201 > > > > > Montevideo - Uruguay. > > > > > Tel.: 2601.57.73 Interno 2228 > > > > > E-mail : [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Esteban Arias > > > Investigación y Desarrollo - Plan Ceibal > > > Avda. 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