Dear Suresh: Agreed. But, I feel while guide dogs help us, stray dogs pose problems. In fact, we haven't considered situations where a guide dog is lured into some sort of 'Barking contest' or into mating by the stray ones. That case, I think we're in even greater trouble! But, I guess guide dogs are taught to stay away from such things. Even then, we can't be so sure!
Subramani -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 9:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog *********************** No virus was detected in the attachment no filename Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. *********************** Well, the subject is moving from guide dogs to street dogs. I have pointed out some days back. I don't know whether my message has reached AI list. Thanks and regards. Suresh Kulkarni. Mob: 9869326498 E-mail id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog > OK folks, let us stop this discussion here and now unless we have some > real > good info on when guide dogs will be available in our lovely country. > > Regards, > Kiran. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. Rohit > Trivedi > Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog > > > Goood you told us otherwise it too would have resulted in another > misconception that blind people have a sixth sense and can tell things > without actually seeing them. > Rohit one is > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 3:17 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog > > >> Ha!Ha!!Ha!!... Wonderful observation. Simply marvelous. People sighted >> the dog just a day before I stamped it on the same spot and also, it >> moved rather slowly after I stamped it. >> >> Subramani >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. Rohit >> Trivedi >> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:15 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog >> >> *********************** >> No virus was detected in the attachment no filename >> >> Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. >> *********************** >> >> >> Just by way of curiosity. How did you get to know that it was a >> pregnant >> >> dog? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:09 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog >> >> >>> Hai: >>> >>> Every day when I walk through the M. G. Road and Brigade road >>> intersection in Bangalore, I will have to wade through the >> thick-flowing >>> traffic. Also, I had to negotiate two dogs at the corner of M. G. >> Road, >>> where my office is located. Though I am basically afraid of trampling >>> over them, they seem to move away the moment they see me. This was >> told >>> to me by one of the shop keepers on the roadside. I didn't believe >>> it, but it's a fact that I am yet to be harmed by these animals, >>> which, as others in the list have pointed out, are very sensitive to >>> people with blindness. >>> >>> Long ago, I was going late to my class and so had to run towards my >>> college, in the process I ran over a pregnant dog, which simply wined >>> and went aside. I was amazed, because I was expecting to be bitten by >>> it. >>> >>> Subramani >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of amit >> bhattt >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:59 AM >>> To: [email protected]; Renuka Warriar >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog >>> >>> *********************** >>> No virus was detected in the attachment no filename >>> >>> Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. >>> *********************** >>> >>> >>> In other words, when these animals get to know that we are blind then >>> they simply free our way or don't harm us! ] >>> -- >>> Warm regards, >>> Amit Bhatt >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Windows messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Yahoo messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Skype: amitbhattindia >>> Direct cell: +91-935-006-3109. >>> >>> "Difficult we do today, impossible takes little longer" >>> >>> >>> Quoting Renuka Warriar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>>> hello, >>>> Once I actually kicked a dog, but instead of biting me it simply >>>> screamed and ran away. It may be because I screamed louder than >>>> that. Anyhow I >>>> don't get a bite. But my experience is that when we walk with the >>>> white >>>> cane, the dogs as well stray cows move away from us. >>>> Renuka >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Kasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 3:19 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog >>>> >>>> >>>> > hae even I too got a dog bite once. >>>> > >>>> > Cheers, >>>> > >>>> > Kasha. >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > From: "Dipendra Manocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> > To: <[email protected]> >>>> > Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 10:51 AM >>>> > Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > No strict rule on this. I hav suffered a dog bite. I have >>>> stepped on the >>>> > > dog >>>> > > thrie and all three times it tried to bite. Once he was quite >>>> successful. >>>> > > Other two times he bit on my shoe thus did not have any effect >>>> on me. >>>> > > >>>> > > I guess, Delhi tops in road rage thus the effect must be there >>>> on dogs >>>> > > too! >>>> > > >>>> > > Cheers >>>> > > Dipendra >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > -----Original Message----- >>>> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>> Harish >>>> > > Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 10:30 AM >>>> > > To: [email protected] >>>> > > Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog >>>> > > >>>> > > Hi Geetha >>>> > > I too agree, usually dogs don't attack blind folks. >>>> > > >>>> > > I too once stepped over a dog which squatted on a stair case. >>>> The fellow >>>> > > kept barking and went away. >>>> > > >>>> > > Harish >>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > > From: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> > > To: <[email protected]> >>>> > > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 8:43 PM >>>> > > Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >> True as it may be that Bangalore has more than its fair share >>>> of stray >>>> > >> dogs, >>>> > >> it must be said in defence of dogs that they practically look >>>> at blind >>>> > >> people with compassion. Although several people travel >>>> independently in >>>> > >> Bangalore, I have not come across a single instance of a blind >>>> person >>>> > >> being >>>> > >> attacked/bitten by a dog because the person trampled on it. I >>>> > >> remember having literally walked over a dog several years >>>> ago. Once >>>> the >>>> > >> dog started barking, I was so afraid of being attacked that I >>>> started >>>> > >> running. But instead of running after me, the dog meerly >>>> continued >>>> > >> barking. >>>> > >> I do not know whether it detected my blindness or was simply >>>> afraid of >>>> > >> my >>>> > >> white cane. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> In the longrun though, it would be good if guide dogs could be >>>> replaced >>>> > >> with >>>> > >> a guide robot. >>>> > >> Geetha >>>> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > >> From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> >>>> > >> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 8:30 AM >>>> > >> Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >>> Well well, you should come to Bangalore to know all about >>>> dogs. This >>>> > >>> city probably has the highest number of stray dogs anywhere >>>> in the >>>> > >>> world. There are whole generations of them living on the >>>> streets. I >>>> > >>> understand the concern of animal rights activists but this is >>>> too >>>> much. >>>> > >>> It is not safe enough to walk on the streets without sighted >>>> assistance. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Kiran. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> -----Original Message----- >>>> > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>> Pranav >>>> Lal >>>> > >>> Sent: Friday, 30 June 2006 6:53 AM >>>> > >>> To: [email protected] >>>> > >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Kiran, >>>> > >>> <snip any dogs scheduled to arrive >>>> > >>> in Bombay, I should think twice before I travel there >>>> <grin>. >>>> > >>> PL] I am in Mumbai and I am already living in an ocean of >>>> dogs. it is >>>> > >>> hell! >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Pranav >>>> > >>> -----Original Message----- >>>> > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>> Kaja, >>>> Kiran >>>> > >>> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 7:00 PM >>>> > >>> To: Pamnani; [email protected] >>>> > >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Do you have to pay for these dogs? With so many dogs >>>> scheduled to >>>> arrive >>>> > >>> in Bombay, I should think twice before I travel there >>>> <grin>. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Regards, >>>> > >>> Kiran. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> -----Original Message----- >>>> > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>> Pamnani >>>> > >>> Sent: Thursday, 29 June 2006 12:53 PM >>>> > >>> To: [email protected] >>>> > >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Yes it is the same person. >>>> > >>> i am surprised that you are promised a dog in April 2007. I >>>> have paid >>>> in >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> May- June of 2005. I havent been informed when I will get the >>>> dog. >>>> > >>> There are others who have paid before me and they havent got >>>> a dog as >>>> > >>> yet. >>>> > >>> so please email the new tel. nos. and addresss. Iwill have to >>>> follow >>>> it >>>> > >>> up. >>>> > >>> Are there others on this list who have registered for a guide >>>> dog? >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Kanchan Pamnani >>>> > >>> Advocate & Solicitor >>>> > >>> 9, Suleman Chambers, >>>> > >>> Battery Street, Colaba, >>>> > >>> Mumbai - 400 039. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > >>> From: "sameer latey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> > >>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> > >>> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:43 AM >>>> > >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Guide Dog >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> I have booked a guide dog through Mr. Nitin Sule, who has his >>>> > >>>> guide dog training school at Nerul. I will be receiving my >>>> > >>>> guide dog in April/ May next year. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> If this is the same person you are talking about, Kanchan, >>>> > >>>> then I will send you his address and mobile number. I last >>>> > >>>> spoke with him in May , aroung the 15th, about 45 days ago. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> Regards >>>> > >>>> Sameer >>>> > >>>> --- pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>>> Amit, >>>> > >>>>> there is no guide dog trained in India as yet. There were >>>> > >>>>> plans by one organisation, to be correct by one man, to >>>> > >>>>> train guide dogs for the visually impaired. There were >>>> > >>>>> several write ups in the >>>> > >>>>> newspaper and we even met with him. He had great >>>> > >>>>> ideas and had studied the >>>> > >>>>> issues and the socio , economic and other problems >>>> > >>>>> that would be faced in >>>> > >>>>> India so some of us have booked a dog with him. >>>> > >>>>> However at present he seems >>>> > >>>>> to have disappeared and the project does not seem to >>>> > >>>>> have taken off. I >>>> > >>>>> think thats the latest status. I have tried on >>>> > >>>>> several occasions to get in >>>> > >>>>> touch but ........ although I havent tried very hard >>>> > >>>>> to find him. >>>> > >>>>> So currently no dog for us in India. >>>> > >>>>> Anyway It would have been tough to get permissions >>>> > >>>>> and acceptance. >>>> > >>>>> I am still very keen and I still think if this man >>>> > >>>>> or somebody else trains a >>>> > >>>>> dog I would like to have one. >>>> > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> Regards >>>> > >>>>> Kanchan >>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > >>>>> From: "amit bhattt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> > >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 16:17 >>>> > >>>>> Subject: [AI] Need to know..... >>>> > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> > Hello AccessIndia! >>>> > >>>>> > before raising my small query, I would like to >>>> > >>>>> congratulate Mr. Kiran >>>> > >>>>> > Kaja for providing a new site >>>> > >>>>> www.accessindia.org.in. to this list. I >>>> > >>>>> > Am sure there won't be any problem in message >>>> > >>>>> delivery now! and, we >>>> > >>>>> > all the members will stick to the relevant >>>> > >>>>> subject. >>>> > >>>>> > Now I would like to know is there any member who >>>> > >>>>> is using guide dog? >>>> > >>>>> > If anyone is there, I want to talk to you! >>>> > >>>>> > I will appreciate if you can contact me >>>> > >>>>> personally. 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