I don't quite agree with what your friend or someone has suggested that
6681 can do all the things that a PDA can do. Or to put it differently,
it may be able to do most of the tasks alright but there are drastic
changes in how things are done. Both technologies have their own
advantages and disadvantages and I should also admit that Nokia is much
more active with its SmartPhone development than any of the other
Windows based PDA and PDA phone manufacturers.

Perhaps I should write a blog entry about the real difference on the
AccessIndia site but let me try to explain it briefly here. Before we
get into a sort of comparison here, I should make it clear that PDAs are
basically three types. A basic PDA with a touch screen having  a few
buttons and bluetooth and wireless capabilities is the first variety.
The second variety is the PDA Phone. This is the most feature rich of
all PDA types. In addition to having a touch screen, a few button,
bluetooth and wireless, it also has a GSM or CDMA phone built in. And
most of the PDA phones also have a built in qwerty keyboard which can be
typed on using your thumbs. So, it is also called a thumb keyboard. PDAs
without Phone features are not in great demand these days although HP
and Dell still produce them. Some PDA and PDA phone models like the HP
iPAQ 6515 also have a builtin GPS receiver. The third variety is the
Windows SmartPhone. This variety resembles a standard candy bar mobile
phone but runs a stripped down version of Windows instead of Symbian or
Linux. I haven't worked much with Windows SmartPhones and so I cannot
comment too much on them. Also, for the comparison, I would only use the
PDA Phone variety as it makes more sense as a convergence device.

First things first, a Nokia 6681's or any other Symbian based phone's
primary feature is to allow people to make and receive voice calls and
text messages. This is given top priority. Whatever additional features
you get are bonus. And whatever additional features are there are
derived from this phone and text messaging interface. With a PDA Phone,
it is the reverse. It is a PDA first and phone next. Phone features are
adapted to the PDA interface.

As far as technical differences are concerned, PDA phones tend to have
superior hardware than Nokia phones although Nokia is catching up with
its new line of N series phones. N91 has the best sound quality I have
ever heard in an mp3 player let alone phone. The base and trebble
effects are just amazing. Other N series phones also have decent sound
output but Windows PDA phones have been having very good sound quality
for a long time. You can listen to music or books without any hesitation
even in noisy environments which is not that easy with a Nokia phone
based on Series 60 second edition. The volume is not loud enough. The
processor speed and the memory capabilities arer also better but again
Nokia is catching up with their N Series. Bluetooth, Infrared and WiFi
are standard and some PDA phone models also have GPS receivers. All
these features (at least WiFi and GPS) are yet to appear even in N
Series. But superior hardware also has its disadvantages one of which is
higher battery consumption.

Stabilitywise, Symbian phones are better. Symbian is geared towards
mobile phones while Windows CE has been adapted from PDA to PDA Phone
models. There can be crashes in PDA phone now and then and you may have
to restart the phone during this time. You won't loose any data though.

All the productivity functions on PDA Phones like Outlook, Calendar,
Contacts and tasks resemble your standard Outlook on Desktop. You may
not have all the features of the desktop versions, but most of them are
there. And the synchronization between your outlook desktop and outlook
on PDA is very good. For instance, if you add or change a phone book or
contact entry in your phone, it will be reflected in Outlook and vice
versa as soon as you synchronize. This is also possible with Nokia
phones with the Nokia PC Suite. But with PDA phones, the process is much
simpler.

Pocket Word, Pocket Excel and Pocket Internet Explorer in PDA Phones
resemble their desktop counterparts although with limited features.
Nokia phones also have these capabilities with Quick Office but as users
already point out, using these applications is simply not realistic
because of their design.

Now comes the real difference of access technology. A screen reader for
PDA or PDA phones, Mobile Speak Pocket is far more advanced than that of
Talks or Mobile Speak. Infact, I wouldn't call Talks and Mobile Speak
screen readers at all. They are just speech interfaces where as Mobile
Speak Pocket is a full fledged screen reader. And like all other
applications on the PDA, Mobile Speak Pocket also has most of the
features of a desktop screen reader like Jaws but which are relevant and
most useful for a PDA platform. All the text navigation commands
(reading by character, word, sentense, line and paragraph and the
similar feature to Insert+DownArro with Jaws) are available in Mobile
Speak Pocket. These makes reading long documents a breaze. Tell me any
one of you Nokia phone users have been able to read a 300 page novel in
MS Word format on your phones using Quick Word? I used to do this with
my PDA Phone regularly. Have you been able to review and edit an excel
worksheet regularly on your 6681s? I can do this everyday on my PDA
Phone. And e-mail, have you really been able to download all messages on
to your Nokia phones and read and respond to them for days at a stretch?
Even when using a bluetooth keyboard, it is not so simple. I can do this
without any sort of problem on my PDA phone. Infact, I did this using a
GPRS internet connection when I was in Bangalore for a few days and I
didn't have my laptop with me. All the text navigation commands are
available in Outlook too.

And Internet, I used to read all my news pages using the PDA Phone
through a GPS connection because Mobile Speak Pocket offers the
functionality of a virtual buffer and virtual PC Cursor which means that
you can read through all the webpages and activate the links and forms
just as you do with Jaws on a desktop. Finally, there is Windows Media
Player on the device. My 1 GB memory card on the PDA Phone would always
be filled with MP3s.

Looks like I am getting carried away too much with MSP. But anyway, I
would prefer a Windows Ce based PDA Phone over a Symbian phone any day.
It is certainly more expensive than a convensional phone. The total cost
would be upwards of 40000. This system is a true replacement for a
dedicated note taker for the blind such as Pacmate or Braille Note. It
is much more than a mere mobile phone. Enough for now. More in the
blog...

Regards,
Kiran.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, 01 August 2006 6:03 PM
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Subject: [AI] PDA and Mobile speak pocket question

Hi listers, since we have Dinesh who is currently working with code 
factory and kiran who has worked with the same in the past I thought of

asking this question on the list. I would like to know how effective 
mobile speak pocket is and what PDAs are available in the market  which 
would be affordable and feature rich. How much appprox does one have to 
spend on the software and hardware? Some of my friends have said there 
is hardly any use of the PDA for us when we can have advanced mobile 
phones like nokia 6681. is there anyone on the list apart from the 
software developers who is using a PDA?

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