service provider, manufacturer should pay for the concession. if it is government concern then government should bother, if it is private concern, the related company must pay for it. private concerns are contributing millions of rupees to political parties for their own benifit, then why don't for concessions?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? > I think my original point is diluted. I never said concessions should > not be provided. Instead, if you all read my original mail on this > topic, I mention that concessions cannot be done away with no matter how > good the facilities are. My original point is who needs to pay for these > concessions. Does the government have to pay for them or the service > providers and manufacturers of goods and services which are private > companies. Also, which of the methods is desirable for us consumers. If > the government decides and pays for the concessions, we need not request > or demand any private company to provide them and be at their mercy. > > Regards, > Kiran. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sameer > latey > Sent: Friday, 11 August 2006 11:10 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? > > > Dear Friends, > > 1. Only those blind individuals who are earning enough > to have to pay tax can take advantage of the tax > concessions like Section 80U. > 2. Most of the blind individuals are residing in the > rural areas and do not earn enough to pay taxes. > 3. It is these people who require concessions and > therefore concessions are required. > 4. I agree that we must not demand concessions as a > matter of right but as a tool to even the playing > field. > 5. At the same time, we must be vigilant to ensure > that the concessions granted are implemented and not > merely paper proposals. > > Regards > Sameer > --- Dr Rakesh Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > don't you think that concessions are meant for > > masses and not for classes > > like some of us who can really afford to manage > > without concessions and if > > we start a discussion that leads to a concession > > free world; we are going to > > cause a big loss to our less fortunate brotherens! > > > > Dr. Rakesh Jain > > Mobile (Reliance): 09336787900 > > Mobile (BSNL): 09415787900 > > Residence: 05224001112 and 05222732345 > > Skype ID: dr.rjain > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chetan Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:28 PM > > Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? > > > > > > > same here. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "K Ramkrishna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > > <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:18 PM > > > Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? > > > > > > > > >>i received three copies of this message. > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "K Ramkrishna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > >> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:53 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? > > >> > > >> > > >>> Dear Kiran, > > >>> How do we justify that VIPs should be extended > > various tax concessions > > >>> in > > >>> the backdrop of the argument that government > > should fund our concessions > > >>> from its tax collections? Doesn't it become > > double counting? On one > > >>> hand, > > >> we > > >>> are asking for concessions in the charges for > > various services and also > > >> the > > >>> same in taxes, from where, the government has to > > fund such concessions? > > >>> I > > >> am > > >>> only asking for the reaction of AI members, as > > this issue will come up > > >>> sooner or later. > > >>> regards > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> From: "Subramani L" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>> To: <[email protected]> > > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:33 AM > > >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for > > concessions? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Kiran: > > >>> > > > >>> > This's what I exactly argue in my Ph.D thesis. > > Your point makes > > >>> > perfect > > >>> > sense. > > >>> > > > >>> > Subramani > > >>> > > > >>> > -----Original Message----- > > >>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Kiran > > >>> > Kaja > > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:34 PM > > >>> > To: [email protected] > > >>> > Subject: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? > > >>> > > > >>> > *********************** > > >>> > No virus was detected in the attachment no > > filename > > >>> > > > >>> > Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. > > >>> > *********************** > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Hi all, > > >>> > > > >>> > Having followed the thread on DGCA guidelines > > and the subsequent > > >>> > discussion > > >>> > of concessions for the blind or escorts, I > > have been thinking about it > > >>> > for a > > >>> > couple of days. > > >>> > > > >>> > I feel that in our country, the existence of > > public sector in > > >>> > businesses > > >>> > like transport and education has benifitted > > persons with blindness. If > > >>> > all > > >>> > the industry and utility services were run by > > private firms, I don't > > >>> > imagine > > >>> > they would come forward with so many > > concessions and exemptions for > > >>> > us. > > >>> > Providing concessions is much simpler for > > public sector or government. > > >>> > However, this raises a big question of who > > should eventually pay for > > >>> > the > > >>> > concessions? > > >>> > > > >>> > As citizens of the country, we are entitled to > > lead a life which > > >>> > closely > > >>> > resembles a sighted or normal person who > > doesn't have a disability. > > >>> > This > > >>> > obviously entails extra expenditure because of > > various reasons. To > > >>> > offset > > >>> > this additional cost, concessions and > > exemptions are provided. I > > >>> > strongly > > >>> > feel that since the government collects taxes > > from individuals as well > > >>> > as > > >>> > businesses in the private sector, it should be > > the one paying for > > >>> > these > > >>> > concessions. If the Railways were privatised, > > the cost of providing > > >>> > concession to blind persons should be born by > > the government and not > > >>> > by > > >>> > the > > >>> > private company which runs the railways. If a > > private company > > >>> > voluntarily > > >>> > comes forward with concessions, it is a very > > good gesture on their > > >>> > part. > > >>> > But > > >>> > if concessions are imposed by law, the cost of > > these concessions > > >>> > should > > >>> > be > > >>> > reimbursed. > > >>> > > > >>> > For instance, when most of the other > > passengers of airlines were > > >>> > paying > > >>> > full > > >>> > fair for their tickets, blind persons were > > only paying half. If we put > > >>> > the > > >>> > social argument of concession aside for a > > while, the airline company > > >>> > was > > >>> > loozing money by carrying blind passengers. > > The airline company in > > >>> > question > > >>> > also pays the same tax irrespective of > > offering concessions. So, there > > >>> > is no > > >>> > insentive at all for the airline company by > > carrying blind passengers. > > >>> > On > > >>> > the contrary, the company gets less money. > > >>> > > > >>> > I think it is the responsibility of the > > government to provide or pay > > >>> > for > > >>> > the > > >>> > concessions as they should look after the > > welfare of its citizens. > > >>> > Private > > >>> > companies or public sector companies for that > > matter should never be > > >>> > forced > > >>> > to bear the cost of concessions. > > >>> > > > >>> > What do you all think about this? 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