Hi friends, Frankly I have always felt that topics not central to our charter attract the maximum responses. Having said this, the point has got lost somewhere in the verbal volleys that have been circulating. Noone disagrees that everybody's time IS important and any topic important to any member is not to be trivialised. But the fact is that there are many other groups where such general topics can be raised and an exchange of views sought.
And while I can always unsubscribe if I find the number of irrelevant mails too much, as someone had suggested, the fact remains that AI really helps us solve our technology, accesibility and work related problems which is why we cannot afford to get off the list. And that's why we joined it in the first place. However the final say on this matter rests with our moderator Kiran and we have to respect that. Warm regards, Hari -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chetan Sharma Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Hi list, I am not able to understand, why this group can not or should not discuss the sexual harassment of Blind women. If an extended discussion on stray dogs is relevant, if we can discuss reservations and concessions for VIs, and if any other problem faced by Blind and Visually impaired is a part and parcel of this list, why can't we discuss sexual harassment of Blind women? If somebody has joined group to discuss issues pertaining to computers and technology only then i think he/she misjudged the objectives of this group. There has been a persistent argument about the precious time. Please understand Everybody's time is equally important and precious. Do you think when smriti raise this issue, she was free and had no business at all? Is she passing her time by raising such issues? not at all. more over, first one or two lines, even subject can also suggest, what is written in the message. If one does not like something, he or she can easily delete the message. it is nowhere in the group's policy that every member has to read entire message and can not delete the message before reading it completely. With regards, Chetan Sharma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Divyanshu Ganatra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on > With all due respects, I believe this group is ment for discussing > technology and computer related issues, and not sexual harassment. Let us > not forget what we have joined this group for, and respect everyone's > time > and space on this forum. > Having said that I leave it to the moderators judgement. > Regards, > Divyanshu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Subramani L > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:53 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on > > The subject here is how we can help VI girls to safeguard themselves, so > the > topic can't be irrelevant to the group. Also, we don't merely discuss > technology, disability-related issues are therefore allowed for > discussion. > > Subramani > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vetrivel > Murugan Adhimoolam > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:41 AM > To: Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on > > Hi everyone, > > I certainly understand the concerns of the member who finds lack of time > in > going through so many messages. However I would like to request the > members > to be careful while choosing certain expressions. For example the > statement: > "We should not put our nose in > each and every discussion to which we have no idea or have little > knowledge > to contribute". In my view this is unwarranted since none of us are > specialized in all the fields and at the same time it cannot and should > not > be a barrier in contributing to the group. Believe me or not, my work load > here in the US is so much and still I find time to go through the message > list and choose which ones to read and which one to ignore based on > certain > priorities and availability of my time. This is not to show to the group > how > much hard working I am, but to show that My inconveniences cannot and > should > not be used as tools to request other members to restrict their > participation. Perhaps it would be great if we could receive comments from > other members on this. > > Best Regards, > > Vetri. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 9:15 AM > Subject: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on > > >> Dear Members, >> I think this group is purpose specific. >> However, WE have reduced it in to a forum for general discussion. >> When we started the group there was a specific purpose behind it. > There >> are >> so many things which could be discussed about the problems of VCs. I > think >> we should have group purpose specific. >> So that we could be specialized in our approach in dealing with the >> problems >> related to us. Just casual remarks on issues are mere wastage of time > for >> so >> many people here around. I received more than 300 messages on the > issue of >> definition regarding the word blind. >> So many things which are important but do not fit in the scheme of > this >> group could be taken up with free mind else where. Now initiating a > group >> is >> not a big thing. Any body could start a group. We should not put our > nose >> in >> each and every discussion to which we have no idea or have little >> knowledge >> to contribute to others. >> With regards, >> VIP >> >> I hope the group would not take it otherwise. This is a specialized > world. >> and we are part and parcel of the same integrated globe. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Naushad C A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 7:36 PM >> Subject: [AI] question >> >> >>> hello friends my name is Naushad and I am putting a >>> question first >>> time in access india. >>> I am learning web programming from last one month. as >>> a blind person >>> actually I am struggling now with an issue about flash >>> elements. 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