Hi Syed A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z. Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from the virtual buffer. Harish.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > Hi Moiz > > Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running > Windows XP? If not, no problem. > Just try this and let us know > > 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit > Jaws. > 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter > You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a > screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. > 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already > have opened > Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, > 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C > 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. > 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. > I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't > work > Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your > collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? > > For your success > Syed Imran > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > > >> Hello sir. >> >> Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. >> Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to >> exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the >> journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. >> Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this >> is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. >> Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. >> I'm clueless. >> Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was >> said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any >> difference? >> Moiz. >> >> Message: 11 >> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 >> From: "Syed Imran" < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. >> To: < >> [email protected]> >> >> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hello Moiz and my dear list members, >> >> This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any >> data >> from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I >> assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy >> the >> exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you >> that >> the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope >> you >> don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail >> carefully. >> Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious >> technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web >> documents >> accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual PC >> cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, >> links, >> formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called >> "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different elements >> on >> a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a >> seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a >> sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by >> an >> example. >> I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how >> exactly >> a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for >> us. >> I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to >> understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet >> explorer >> >> I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not >> virtualised) >> ------------------------------ >> >> The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: >> >> Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The >> fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough >> salt >> is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are >> added. The pickle >> are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to >> stir >> and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is >> used. >> >> In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying "Link" in the middle of >> the line. I think this is how a "link" element appears on the screen. >> But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line >> to >> present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an >> extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about >> the >> same in the 2nd illustration: >> ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised) >> >> The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: >> >> Some >> LINK fruits and >> LINK vegetables >> preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is >> cut >> into pieces and enough salt >> is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. >> LINK Oil >> and >> LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a >> Link dry jar >> with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from >> the >> jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. >> >> ------------ >> >> So this is how Jaws arranges the data in the web page after virtualising. >> However, when you copy this text to Microsoft Word, you will observe the >> text broken something like this: >> >> Some >> fruits and >> vegetables >> Instead of: >> Some fruits and vegetables >> We can surely remove the line breaks by pressing CTRL+downarrow and then >> back space followed by space bar as Vetry said, but it takes lot of time. >> Especially the lengthy documents. So when you want to copy anything from >> internet explorer, don't use selecting keys like Shift+downarrow, or >> ctrl+A >> to select the text. follow these simple steps exactly to copy the exact >> information without line or page breaks. >> >> 1. Open the web page from which you want to copy >> >> 2. Press Alt+E to pull down edit menu. >> >> 3. Choose "Select all," by pressing A. >> We can't press CTRL+A directly instead of pulling down edit menu because >> Jaws will select from its virtual buffer. And I think Moiz, this could be >> the cause of your problem. >> >> 4. Again pull down the edit menu (Alt E) and choose copy by pressing C. >> Now what actually happens is that when you select all and copy from the >> edit >> menu, the data gets directly copied from Internet explorer and not from >> Jaws >> virtual buffer. >> >> 5. Open Microsoft word with a new document. >> >> 6. Paste whatever is copied from internet. >> This will paste the entire web page in your new documents including >> pictures, tables, links etc. >> >> 7. Keep whatever you want and delete unnecessary stuff. >> >> Some tips: >> >> 1. If you don't want pictures, tables and links, then paste it in >> notepad >> and then copy it to Microsoft word >> >> 2. However if you want tables, then paste it in wordpad and after >> selecting >> the pasted text, copy it to Microsoft word. >> >> 3. If you suspect that there are hyperlinks still in the edited document, >> press CTRL+A and press CTRL+SHIFT+F9 to clear the hyperlink attribute >> from >> the entire document. >> >> I am still searching for some easier way to copy from web pages and will >> be >> thankful if anyone could help in this regard. >> >> For your success >> >> Syed Imran >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. 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