I talked to someone who knows the DUE system and found that colleges never reach the candidates through consultancies. Why so in the case of the Physically challenged? And then If someone wants to be helpful to the PH, why not reveal the name of the college needing the candidates? Why not advertise the vacancy in the newspapers which is the normal procedure of the University? And when someone raises such valid questions, why do people have to take offense? One should not mind if someone takes offense, but one should always mind when someone makes capital out of the unemployment of the PH. When I say "capital" I mean any kind of benefit out of a dismal situation.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Viraj Kafle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce - South Delhi We do miss the bigger picture sometimes. Quite possible. But that does not mean one cannot raise something one feels relevant. Nor do I intend to do any foul play or to level any accusation. There was nothing unhealthy about the way I raised issues. One could always disagree, but I see no reasons to be appalled and to decide to withdraw. Anyway, to clarify some of the points: a) It is not the number of times the notice has been posted, but the similar nature of the notice everytime is what concerned me. Had they be a bit transparent, as I said in my previous mail, there was no reason for me to blow the whistle. So the nature, and not the number, was my concern. b) Of course, the process is problematic. One may have a policy not to distinguish between private/government jobs, but in a public forum like this, the distinction must be made by all means, I think, and it is of no surprise that anyone would, in one way or the other, raise the issue. c) The logic of reaching out to as many candidates as possible would be more effective, in my mind, if things are presented in more open and clear manner. d) True, nowhere in that notice it was mentioned that one cannot apply in vacancies of the similar nature. But, even in this particular vacancy, one must have a choice, whether to make his/her way through the consultancy or to deal directly with the institution. owing to The recent developments that have taken place regarding Delhi University and the challenged people, the later has become more relevant, I guess. The non-transparent nature of the notice does not allow this choice. On the whole, my concern is simple. If the idea is to do the most and the best for the chalenged people, why not do it in the most open and fairest manner? Regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anubhuti Mittal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce - South Delhi Dear Members ... Pardon me for marking this mail to all ....but I thought there may be people who would have similar questions , hence, it was important to reach out to all . With my limited intelligence levels , I am unable to understand the motive behind the issues raised by the more enlightened members of this forum ....They say a) "This is the third time such a vacancy has been posted .....even subjects are more or less the same." ...... Is the number of times a vacancy is posted an issue ? b) "shocking to realise the utter lack of transparency in such notices" ... we have a standard process of releasing / advertising vacancies and do not differentiate between private /public/NGO/self employment or any such category . If someone has a problem with our processes, too bad ..we can't help it . c) "Nor do i see any logic whatsoever behind the manner in which the Consultancy, in these cases, is insisting on being a mediator between the college and the applicants." ....The logic my friend, is very simple... to reach out to as many eligible candidates as possible, so that they get the benefit ... no hidden motive ... probably you missed this very obvious logic because you were busy trying to figure out a more ulterior / clandestine logic where none existed . d) "In a job like this, needless to say, we have a well laid out procedure in which the institution advertises and the applicants apply and appear for the interview, rather than sending his/her resumés to any NGO or consultancy." . Nowhere in the email have I asked candidates not to send their candidature against similar vacancies advertised in other sources and route their CVs only to us. The institutes know better than us and I know for a fact , are advertising as per the requirements etc .... but I see no harm in case they are trying to increase the # of relevant resumes against an open position . I am amazed and appalled at the level of arguments raised ... it is quite painful to note that we have people within our community who miss the bigger picture and insist on spending time and energy on irrelevant and petty issues Everyone has the right to put their point across ... but isnt it possible to do so in the manner of a healthy discussion rather than presuming foul play and documenting accusations ...We do not claim to be doing anything great ... our efforts are at a very small scale .. the idea is only and only to contribute to the cause of employability of people with disabilities. I refuse to be part of any forum which has members with such petty , parochial outlook ....and am, hence , withdrawing with immediate effect . Wishing You All the Very Best Regards Anubhuti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ashwani Jassal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes sir I am also agree with you. This kind of act has been taken place prior to this. one appointment has been made in the Gargi college through this mean. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Vipin Malhotra" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 8:50 HAPPS Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce - South Delhi I am also really concerned. Why not to have transparency? The job is not related to any private sector. Vip Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra President, Delhi University Physically Challenged Teachers' Association (DUPHCHTA), Reader, Deptt. of Political Science, Sri Aurobindo College, Delhi University Mobile: +91-9868-177-335. Email: Skype Id. vipin.malhotra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Viraj Kafle" To: Cc: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce - South Delhi > It is I guess for the third time a notice like this has been posted in > Access India. Everytime it is mentioned that some "prominent" college > is looking for employers, but no college name has been given. > Interestingly, everytime the college happens to be in South Delhi and, > if my memory serves me right, even subjects are more or less the same. > > While it is great to know that there are NGOs and Consultancies > devoted to the cause and requirements of the visually challenged > people, it is, however, shocking to realise the utter lack of > transparency in such notices. 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