The fact is that no one would like to disagree with the pm's words as they are 
worried about the consequences.
The Ministery of social justice and the law making body should consider all 
aspects before taking a final view on the term "divyang"
Before it is used in public domain.



-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
P. Subramani
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 1:00 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under any 
law?

very well advised harish, there is unnecessary talk on this topic and from 
most of the postings, it seems that Modi is creating problems,  he  hasn't 
solved any of our problems.  This seems to be a more of a conspiracy 
campaign rather than fair discussion.  If people have any objections for the 
word, obviously, it has to be transmitted to the PM.  Moreover, diwang means 
divine part and not divinge bodies as talked in this list.  Some members are 
misleading the group in the sense that our traditions have treated 
disability cruelly without factual basis.  Surely our traditions hasn't 
treated us cruelly, its  leftist/western conceived notion.   Surely, 
disableds haven't till date decided  what's right/good for themselves.  More 
often than not,  everything is imposed on disability.  Mere suggestion 
shouldn't warrant  such big fuss.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Caution, H P" <[email protected]>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under 
any law?


> Hi
>
> I really don't see why so much fuss is done on the list. A sensible 
> approach is tell the government what is it that we want to be called and 
> why. The government has opened up so many channels for citizen's to 
> communicate,
> Please make use of it.
>
> The PM had merely made a suggestion, it is not cast in stone.
>
> Harish Kotian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:32 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under 
> any law?
>
> Oho, Bichara PM.
> Let us spare him.
>
> Namecalling or not, PM or not:
>
>
> I would even prefer short and simple: "Andhaa" to so-called Divyang
>
> As the former openly expresses what I cannot do,  and the perception of 
> the people rather than masking and deifying it as the later does.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Avichal Bhatnagar
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:46 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under 
> any law?
>
> The topic is being diverted by some people to unnecessarily drag PM into 
> the discussion.
> Name calling is when somebody with intention of hurting deliberately uses 
> a derrogatory term.
> It is not in case of Divyang.
>
> On 12/28/15, Preeti Bhutani <[email protected]> wrote:
>>             What about people who have multiple disabilities ?  when
>> the body loses one sense it is not compensated by other senses in their 
>> case.
>> These words are just words, heard numerous times.
>>
>> When a door closes, God opens a window, they say, but what we need  a
>> helping hand to get to the window.
>>
>> That we need , a helping hand so we all do what  we all are capable of.
>>
>>
>>
>> We won’t become specially abled till we get some “special" helping
>> hand from government and society ,
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 8:59 PM, [email protected]
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry... But what are the special abilities that one may have??
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C
>>>
>>> > On 28-Dec-2015, at 20:42, Aravind Aralaguppe <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I think specially abled is the rightword
>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> > From: "Lissy Verghese" <[email protected]>
>>> > Date: 28 Dec 2015 14:58
>>> > Subject: Re: [AI] Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under
>>> > any law?
>>> > To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> > the disabled." <[email protected]>
>>> > Cc:
>>> >
>>> > Dear friends,
>>> > It is true that when the body loses one sense, it tries to
>>> > compensate for it with whatever it has. Our dear Prime Minister
>>> > appears a bit sympathetic. Strong words won't help. Let's cooperate
>>> > with our Government by suggesting amendments. If we stand together,
>>> > we will definitely be heard. Let organizations all over India come
>>> > together and put forward constructive suggestions so that the
>>> > efforts of the Government for an inclusive India can be fulfilled.
>>> > Thank you!
>>> > Lissy Verghese
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On 12/28/15, Asudani, Rajesh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> I had strongly pressed for such penal provisions in the new bill.
>>> >> However, we don't know in which avtar the new bill will be passed 
>>> >> now.
>>> >>
>>> >> Even I would like to penalize our dear PM under any such
>>> >> provision, if
>>> it
>>> >> were there, for calling us Divyang and saying publicly that god
>>> >> gifts compensatory abilities if he snatches away one.
>>> >>
>>> >> Not a bad bargain, na?
>>> >>
>>> >> Were It true, why not, Mr. PM go in for such a trade-off yourself
>>> >> and
>>> ask
>>> >> all government babus to follow suit?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> सादर / With thanks & Regards
>>> >> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
>>> >> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
>>> >> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
>>> >> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur
>>> >>
>>> >> 0712 2806846
>>> >>
>>> >> President
>>> >> VIBEWA
>>> >> Co-Moderator
>>> >> VIB-India
>>> >>
>>> >> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic
>>> >> and laughter.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> >> On
>>> > Behalf
>>> >> Of Kakarla Nageswaraiah
>>> >> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 12:06 PM
>>> >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> >> the disabled.
>>> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under
>>> >> any
>>> law?
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't know the right word for that but I mean insulting with
>>> >> words like kurudan (Tamil), Guddi (Telugu), etc.  Insulting may
>>> >> also include acts like deriding the way we do things.  Hope it's 
>>> >> clear now.
>>> >> Regards.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> On 12/28/15, Aravind R <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>> sorry for my ignorance.
>>> >>> what is the meaning of "name calling"?
>>> >>> do you mean nick names?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> On 12/28/15, Kakarla Nageswaraiah <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>> Dear all,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I often come across incidents of name-calling the blind by the
>>> >>>> sighted and my friends want to know whether it is possible to
>>> >>>> penalise such sighted persons who resort to name-calling thereby
>>> >>>> hurting the blind.
>>> >>>> As far as I know, there's no such provision in the PWD Act.
>>> >>>> Learned experts may kindly enlighten on the matter.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thanks and regards.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> --
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