Hi Prashant

It was certainly Microsoft did not have technical challenges to make a good 
screen reader. I suppose because of IOS and Android, Microsoft got a 
realization, they could not hold it any more.

To my understanding, they gave space for assistive technology companies to grow 
and compete. Now as it stands today all have withered away and this may be 
another factor for MS to reenter into this space.

As I see narrator today, I think, MS will take narrator in full steam. The mood 
and inclination seems poised to provide 3rd party support. In my opinion 
computer training centres should onboard this development to make their course 
relevant and contextual.

I would not really call it a set back to NVDA development. One can't have only 
one screen reader as a solution. There are occasions where one screen reader 
out performs another. It should be users choice where and when he chooses to 
use which screen reader. This can only be done when the choices are inherently 
rich enough in features and capabilities.

I would consider it regressive if training centres do not make aware and 
provide suitable training even when screen reader is sufficiently capable.

Although screen reader development is a tricky business, there should not be a 
forced cost to it. Accessibility should be inherently available to use the 
platform.

Harish.

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Prashant Ranjan Verma
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 8:34 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator as a screen reader come of age

Yes, Narrator has really improved by leaps and bounds. But I would still not 
recommend anyone to switch to it given that NVDA is also available free of cost.
It needs to be seen if Microsoft continues to develop Narrator and more 
importantly if they put resources in supporting third party applications and 
develop advanced screen reader features. Also it needs to be seen if Microsoft 
allows users to customize it and build add-ons for different needs.

If they continue to develop it over the next one or two years then I think NVDA 
usage will get a big setback.
For now the super users can keep testing and evaluating it.
-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Harish Kotian
Sent: 10 June 2018 10:59
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AI] Narrator as a screen reader come of age

Hi All


Narrator has really taken off ultimately in the latest update on Win10.


I would urge all the computer training centers to focus on narrator as a screen 
reader.

         There are plenty of enhancements as a result of which it is now 
possible to switch to it as a primary screen reader. Although the key 
combinations are not intuitive one will have to invest sometime on it.

To check if you are running the latest build of Win10, Run narrator and type 
the combination of caps+ a,  a few times. If it keeps increasing the verbosity 
level, this can be a easy test. The old build had only two states as a toggle.

A very unique feature which is new is that it can now describe any image using 
artificial intelligence.

Harish





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