Hi Kanchan,
Thanks for asking that question.
John has nailed it.
My reasons for 8 plus, as John rightly pointed, are, 
Having a bigger screen gives ne more space to type on,perform those 3 finger 4 
finger gestures with much more comfort and locate icons on screen much more 
easily.
and better camera, greater battery life and better speakers and a 3 GB RAM 
instead of a 2 GB RAM were a few other things that factored in the favor of the 
8 plus vs an 8, I believe in future proofing our new gadgets to some extent.
I'm sure this iPhone will last me for the next 4 to 5 years at least.
the battery of 8 plus is amazing, it lasts for 2 days with moderate use.
To know more differences  between the 8 and 8 plus you can google for some 
youtube videos.
And lastly, yes I'm partially sighted. So I do also use the magnification at 
times.
And I watch youtube  videos etc so as you rightly pointed out, a bigger screen 
helps  me.

But having said that, I know of some people, sighted, partially sighted  and  
totally blind people who prefer and like a small screen like that of the S E 
model, which I think is 4 inches. So it also depends on ones personal 
preference.

HTH
Thanks & regards, Rishi

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
john clayton
Sent: 16 June 2018 06:33 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Please guide, Should I buy iPhone 8 plus or Blackberry Key2?

Hi Kanchan,
  I can not speak for Rishi but odineraly why one would choose a phone with a 
bigger screen even though one is not able to see (the 8 vs the 8 plus) would be 
.
Having a bigger screen gives you more space to type on,perform those 3 finger 4 
finger gestures with much more comfort and locate icons on screen much more 
easily.
Besides that,the better camera, greater battery life and of course better 
speakers would be a few other things that may factor in the favor of the 8 plus 
vs an 8, but of course this may change  for and against depending on individual 
usage and preferences.


On 16 June 2018 at 14:54, Kanchan Pamnani <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hi rishi,
> I am now responding to your decision of a 8+.
> I thought that 8+ is the same as 8 except it is bigger.
> So, if you are totally blind then why the 8+?
> If I was partially sighted or having a  some sight then I would go for 
> a bigger model.
> If anybody could throw some light on why 8+ versus 8, it would be 
> interesting.
> Kanchan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Rishi Kewalramani
> Sent: 15 June 2018 16:10
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Please guide, Should I buy iPhone 8 plus or 
> Blackberry Key2?
>
> Dear John, Shekh Mohammad Ali, Mohib, Sunil, Rahul, Ajay, Mahesh and 
> all others, Thanks a million for all your valuable feedback, I really 
> vallue and appreciate everyone's valuable inputs. thanks for taking 
> out the time to guide me.
> You all have helped me and made my thoughts very clear to finalize on 
> the iPhone 8 plus.
> So Bye-Bye to Blackberry Key2.
> I'll use the iPhone with the speed dots screen protector for tactile 
> feedback.
> Rahul tol me that  the U.S company charges around $10 for shipping the 
> speed dots screen protector to India.
> So thanks a ton to you all again.
> Just for those who are also contemplating  on buying an iPhone, just 
> wanted to let you guys know that we are getting good cash backs in the 
> PayTM Mall.
> So for instance for the iPhone 8 plus, there is a 6500 cash back from 
> PayTM and an additional 10% discount if you use a ICICI credit card. 
> You can use your credit card if you have one, or take help from any 
> friend having an ICICI credit card.
> So that totals up to around 13k of cash back, which I think is awesome.
> It brings down the price to almost near the U.S price.
> Similarly I saw such cash backs for 7 plus  and the 8 models too.
> So check out prices on the PayTM mall for iPhones.
>
> Also during my research, I saw that there were huge discounts and cash 
> backs during the Diwali festive season last year.
> So those  who want to wait it out, might get cash backs upto 15k to 
> 17k during the Diwali festive season which starts a week before Diwali.
>
> Thanks a ton again Dear friends,
> I was really helped by you all,
> Loving regards to all, Cheers,
> Rishi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of john clayton
> Sent: 15 June 2018 09:17 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Please guide, Should I buy iPhone 8 plus or 
> Blackberry Key2?
>
> Hello Rishi,
>   I understand your confusion entirely, and went through the same 
> thing that is whether I should opt for IOS or android for a while.
>
> I believe I have said this before,and will say it again, I have used 
> both android and IOS extencively, and whilst I see the great strides 
> google has been taking towards accessibility, its no where near the 
> eas of use that ios has.
> Apple is a walled garden to be sure, that is no transfering songs 
> through bluetooth (a feature I miss deeply), no sd slots to increase 
> the storage with, but those are the only gripes I can think of when I 
> compare the 2 in favor of android and ios.
>
> The features you are most interested in, that is productivity, email 
> and browsing etc, are areas where IOS excels at, although android isnt 
> as bad in those as it used to be. Still you have to fiddle a lot with 
> android to get it to work as you would like it to (installing 
> uninstalling accessible /inaccessible apps, changing the launcher 
> etc), where as on IOS all you need is the device in your hand.
>
> Touchscreen typing is slower than that of qwerty keyboards to be 
> sure,but with practice you could get cloce.
> The braille screen input that ios has though can make you just as fast 
> if not faster than the qwerty keyboard, depending on how well you know 
> your braille Alphabets.
>
> So I would if I were you lean more towards the Iphone 8 plus rather 
> than the blackberry, but if you feel you can not simply make do 
> without a qwerty keyboard, check with any existing blackberry users as 
> to its UI being accessible or not,issues if any and go for it if they 
> dont mention any issues.
> Hope that helps you some and good luck with whichever phone you end up 
> getting.
>
>
> On 14 June 2018 at 13:27, Rishi Kewalramani 
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi friends,
> > Really need your help.
> > I need to make an important decision regarding my next smartphone.
> > So I really need all of your help for the same.
> > I'm confused and want to make sure that I take the correct decision.
> > since it is not a small investment, i want to make sure the hard 
> > earned money  is well spent.
> >
> > So I want your valuable inputs to help me to make a choice between 
> > Blackberry Key2 or iPhone 8 plus.
> > Its oK if you all have  differing opinions on this, I think it will 
> > help me to make an informed decision.
> >
> > One of my relatives  is coming down from the U.S next month and I 
> > have to tell him about my final decision so that he can go ahead and 
> > order the phone so that it reaches him in time.
> >
> > As some of you may be aware Blackberry has launched  its latest 
> > version called Blackberry Key2, which is an upgrade from their last 
> > year's blackberry Key1.
> > It will be available in the U.S by the end of this month and 
> > pre-orders have started.
> >
> > Blackberry key2 comes with the following specifications:
> > Processor: SnapDragon 660
> > RAM: 6GB
> > Storage: 128 GB
> > Dual SIM
> > Micro SD card slot to expand  to 256GB.
> > Price: $700
> >
> > To see a youtube hands onn review of the blackberry key2, check out 
> > the following link:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li7Yovb6kpo
> >
> > And the iPhone 8 plus, as you all know, comes with the A 11 bionic 
> > processor with 3gb of RAM, and I'll go for the 64gb model.
> > Price: $799
> >
> > The only reason why I'm thinking  about the Blackberry key2 is 
> > because of its physical QWERTY keyboard. And the 52 short cuts that 
> > it offers on the physical keyboard would make things really productive I 
> > think.
> > I still like tactile physical keyboards. Believe it or not, I still 
> > use my old Nokia E5  for calls and sending sms and making notes 
> > because I'm so used to the physical keyboard and I'm pretty fast on 
> > it
> while typing.
> >
> > But my real confusion creeps in when I compare Android with talk 
> > back vs the iOS with voice over.
> >
> > I have never used an iPhone.
> >
> > People say that iOS with voice over is more intuitive, can be used 
> > with much more ease, the accessibility is better etc, and updates 
> > are better since Apple controls both, the software and hardware.
> >
> > My main purpose for having a good smartphone is for business use. 
> > For productivity. Reading webpages on the go, reading, drafting and 
> > replying to emails, reading and replying to whatsapp messages, using 
> > facebook and twitter, making calls  etc.
> > So I'm looking for  a hastle free smooth experience. Productivity is key.
> >
> > I'm not a geek and dont have the time to explore things, make 
> > changes & tweeks  on my phone.
> >
> > In my Moto X 2nd gen, which I got 4 years ago,  I'm experiencing  a 
> > lot of lags with talk back. I do not know the reason for this, Is it 
> > because of an old processor or the 2 GB RAM or no more Android or 
> > talk back updates, with  the Android version stuck to android 6 
> > marshmallow and talk back stuck to version 6 etc or a combination of 
> > all these factors. Its become very sluggish and the experience is not 
> > smooth.
> >
> > One of the questions that I'm thinking about is, do I go for the 
> > Android environment with talk back  or the iOS environment with 
> > voice over But then I really like the physical keyboard of the 
> > Blackberry
> key2..
> > And then  I wonder, what is the point of having a physical keyboard 
> > if android with talk back is not as intuitive as iOS with voice over?
> >
> > And then I became aware of this screen protector, the embossed speed 
> > dots screen protector for iPhones.
> > https://www.speeddots.com/
> > So then I wonder Will this embossed screen protector  fulfill my 
> > need for a tactile keyboard to some extent?
> >
> > But then some say, android with talk back is  not bad. and then my 
> > mind again likes to go for the blackberry key2 with that great 
> > physical keyboard which has 52 short cuts to enhance our productivity.
> >
> > So I'm confused with all these thoughts.
> >
> > Friends, if you were me, which smartphone would you go for between 
> > these 2? And why?
> > A great physical keyboard  or no physical keyboard?
> > Android or iOS?
> >
> > I want the smartphone that I buy  to last me for the next 4 to 5 
> > years at least.
> > Having invested this amount, I dont want to think about it for the 
> > next 4 years at least.
> >
> > So friends, please help me, because some of you have used both 
> > android and iOS.
> > Should I go for Blackberry key2 or iPhone 8 plus?
> >
> > As I mentioned, One of my relatives  is coming down from the U.S 
> > next month and I have to tell him about my final decision so that he 
> > can go ahead and order the phone so that it reaches him in time.
> > since it is not a small investment, i want to make sure the hard 
> > earned money  is well spent.
> >
> > Looking forward to many of your valuable inputs, Apologies to pass 
> > on this confusion to you all, Many thanks in advance for your 
> > replies that I'm really looking forward to, Sincere regards, Rishi.
> >
> >
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