The framed guidelines are getting sabotaged. K -----Original Message----- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of sazid shaik Sent: 19 June 2018 17:02 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
dear experts, Is this guidelines had framed? Is this only for UPSC/ thanks and regards, sazid On 6/19/18, Kotian, H P <hpkot...@rbi.org.in> wrote: > Hi > My comments are under: > > 3. IV. It is welcome that the commission agreed to meet the scribe a > day in advance. However, if the candidate is not happy with any of the > scribes, what is the mechanism to solve the problem. There is no time > at all for the commission to find another set of scribes. > In terms of solution, either the days of meeting the scribe should be > increased or some flexibility should be given so that the candidate > can propose his own scribe giving the examination conductor to satisfy > the suitability of the scribe. Moreover, mere meeting will be of > little use until they attempt some dummy questions online or offline > as the case may be. It may be reasonable restriction if the candidate > and scribe are restricted to share their contact details. > > VII. It is unclear if alternate mode of giving exams is permitted. The > commission should be open to consider this request as a proactive measure. > VIII. Unclear if the commission permits blind person to give the exams > on the computer. There seems dependency on the government to provide > the facility. Again we should press for it. > > Harish > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf Of Kotian, H P > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 3:01 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > > All > Kanchan's mail did not get on the list. Hence, I am copying it below. > Regards > Harish Kotian > > Quoting > > > From: Kanchan Pamnani [mailto:kanchanpamn...@gmail.com] > Sent: 18 June 2018 10:49 > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerning the disabled.' > Subject: Scribe guidelines > > Hi Friends, > You are all aware that U P S E had objected to some of the clauses of > the > 2013 Guidelines. So a committee was set up of which I am a member. In the > last meeting it was decided to set up a subcommittee which has now sent > its recommendations. The U P S E has commented on the recommendations. > The meeting is on 20th June. > Kindly go through the statement below and let me have your feedback by > tomorrow evening. > Kanchan > Statement indicating recommendations of the Sub-Committee , UPSC's > comments, and recommendations of the Department thereon > > Para No. Guidelines dated 26.02.2013 Revision > recommended by the Sub-Committee UPSC's comments w.r.t. the > Sub-Committee's recommendations Department's comments > > III > The facility of Scribe/Reader/Lab Assistant should be allowed to any > person who has disability of 40% or more if so desired by the person. > The facility of Scribe/Reader/Lab Assistant should be allowed to > persons with benchmark disabilities (i.e. with disability of 40% or > more) and has physical limitation to write including that of speed. In > case of persons with benchmark disabilities in the category of > blindness, locomotor disability (both arm affected-BA) and cerebral > palsy, the facility of scribe/reader/lab assistant shall be given, if so desired by the person. > In case of other category of persons with benchmark disabilities, the > provision of scribe/reader/lab assistant can be allowed on production > of a certificate to the effect that the person concerned has physical > limitation to write, and scribe is essential to write examination on > his behalf, from the specialist of a Government health care > institution of the relevant stream of disability as per proforma at Annexure I. > The Commission agrees with the proposal of allowing the facility of > scribe to the candidates falling under the categories of blindness, > locomotor disability (both arm affected - BA) and cerebral palsy, if > so desired by such candidates. > > As regards allowing the facility of scribe/reader/ lab assistant in > case of other category of persons with disabilities on production of > the certificate, the Commission agrees with the recommendation > provided such certificate on physical limitation to write is issued to > such candidates by the CMO of Government Hospital of respective District only. > > It is further stated that since the Commission does not ask for any > certificate including PwBD at initial application stage, the > Commission would allow such candidates of other benchmark disabilities > the facility of Scribe/Reader/Lab Assistant for appearing at the First > Stage > (Preliminary/Stage-I) in a Multi-Stage Examination on the basis of > undertaking from them. However, such certificates will be checked at > the time of Second Stage (Main/Stage-II) of the Examination. > UPSC mostly agrees on the recommendation of the Sub-Committee. > However, they have suggested that the certificate, required to be > produced by the person with other category of disability than > blindness, locomotor disability & cerebral palsy for availing the > facility of scribe, should be issued by CMO instead of specialist of a Government health care institution. > > Department may agree to it. > > > IV The candidate should have the discretion of opting for his own > scribe/reader/lab assistant or request the Examination Body for the same. > The examining body may also identify the scribe/reader/lab assistant > to make panels at the District/Division/State level as per the > requirements of the examination. In such instances the candidates > should be allowed to meet the scribe a day before the examination so that the candidates get a chance to > check and verify whether the scribe is suitable or not. The > examining body may identify the scribe/reader/lab assistant > (language/stream > wise) to develop a pool at the District/Division/State level as per > the requirements of the examination. In such instances the candidates > should be allowed to meet the scribe a day before the examination so > that the candidates get a chance to check and verify whether the > scribe is suitable or not. > In case the examining body is not in a position to make available the > scribe/reader/lab assistant from its side, the candidate would then be > allowed for opting for his own scribe/reader/lab assistant on submission of > the details about the own scribe as per proforma at Annexure II. The > Coordinating Supervisor of the Centres (Cities) and Venue Supervisors > arrange the services of the scribes (who are already trained in such > matters) as per the requirement of the Commission. Such pool must be > of dynamic nature so that any possibility of acquaintance or closeness > of candidates with the scribe/reader/lab assistant could be avoided. > The Commission agrees with the recommendation of meeting of > candidates with scribes a day before the Examination. > > As regards the proposed recommendation with respect to the situation > where the examining body is not in a position to make available the > scribe/reader/lab assistant from its side, it is mentioned that the > Commission will provide 100% scribe facilities to such candidates. > Hence, there seems no necessity for having own scribe facility so far > as the UPSC's Examinations are concerned. UPSC agreed on the > recommendation of the Sub-Committee > V Criteria like educational qualification, marks, scored, age or > other such restrictions for the scribe/reader/lab assistant should not > be fixed. Instead, the invigilation system should be strengthened, so > that the candidates using scribe/reader/lab assistant do not indulge in malpractices > like copying and cheating during the examination. In case the > examining body provides the scribe/reader/lab assistant, it shall be > ensured that qualification of the scribe should not be more than the > minimum qualification criteria of the examination. However the > qualification of the scribe/reader should always be matriculate or above. > In case the candidate is allowed to bring his own scribe, the > qualification of the scribe should be one step below the qualification of the candidate > taking examination. Most of the Commission's Examinations have > graduation as the educational qualification. The Commission agrees > with the proposed recommendation of the Sub-Committee provided the > Commission may also use the services of postgraduate scribe/reader/lab > assistant in case graduates (the preferable choice) are not available in sufficient number. > > Since the Commission will provide 100% scribe facility, question does > not arise for having own scribe in respect of the Commission's Examinations. > This Department may agree to the suggestion made by UPSC that in > case, scribe is being provided by examining body, it may use the > services of scribe having one grade above qualification than the > minimum qualification criteria of the examination. > VI There should also be flexibility in accommodating any change > in scribe/reader/lab assistant in case of emergency. The candidates > should also be allowed to take more than one scribe/reader for writing different > papers especially for languages. There should also be > flexibility in accommodating any change in scribe/reader/lab assistant > in case of emergency. The candidates should also be allowed to take > more than one scribe/reader for writing different papers especially for languages. > However, there can only be one scribe per paper. At present, the > Commission is following this practice. Hence, the Commission agrees with > this recommendation. UPSC agreed on the recommendation > > VII Persons with disabilities should be given the option of > choosing the mode for taking the examinations i.e. in Braille or in > the computer or in large print or even by recording the answers as the > examining bodies can easily make use of technology to convert question > paper in large prints, e-text, or Braille and can also convert Braille text in English or > regional languages. Persons with benchmark disabilities should be given, > as far as possible, the option of choosing the mode for taking the > examinations i.e. in Braille or in the computer or in large print or > even by recording the answers as the examining bodies can easily make > use of technology to convert question paper in large prints, e-text, > or Braille and can also convert Braille text in English or regional > languages. The Ministry of SJ&E/ DEPwD will be in a better position > "especially with respect to Braille" to identify technologies and > provide necessary technical/ infrastructural support for smooth > implementation of the available technology in a phased manner. It was > earlier suggested that the DEPwD would provide the necessary technical > and financial support in developing some Centres with > computers/Braille etc., which can be used by the Examination > Conducting Bodies. If such specialized Centres are developed by the > Government (DEPwD), the Commission would select such Centres for conducting its Examination for the candidates of PwBD. > Presently, the Commission provides large font size Question > Papers to those Visually Impaired candidates, who request for the same. > Suggestion made by UPSC with respect to para VI and VII regarding > development of Centres for Computers/Braille etc. by DEPwD may not be > agreed to. > > The guidelines will be followed not only by UPSC but also by all > the examining bodies. Therefore, Department does not have resources of > its own, financial or otherwise to create centres. Departments under > whose administrative control these examining bodies are functioning > should make provision for this purpose. > > This Department can provide only technical guidance to the examining > bodies. > > VIII. The candidates should be allowed to check the computer system > one day in advance so that the problems, if any in the software/system > could be rectified. In case, the persons with benchmark disabilities > are allowed to take examination on computer system, they should be > allowed to check the computer system one day in advance so that the > problems, if any in the software/system could be rectified. Use of own computer/laptop should not be > allowed for taking examination. The Commission agrees to the > provision of allowing the candidates to take Examination on computer > system provided the Government (DEPwD) develops such Centres having > computer facilities. Then, the Commission would select such Centres > for conducting its Examination for the candidates of PwBD, who request > for computer facility. > > > XIV The examining body should also provide reading material in > Braille or E-Text or on computers having suitable screen reading > software for open book examination. Similarly online examination > should be in accessible format i.e. websites, question papers and all > other study material should be accessible as per the international standards laid down > in this regard. As far as possible, the examining body should also > provide reading material in Braille or E-Text or on computers having > suitable screen reading software for open book examination. Similarly > online examination should be in accessible format i.e. websites, > question papers and all other study material should be accessible as per the international > standards laid down in this regard. The Commission does not conduct any > open book Examination. > > The Commission's online Recruitment Tests/Examinations are being > conducted in accordance with the best practices and solution available in the country. > UPSC agreed on the recommendation. > XI The word "extra time or additional time" that is being > currently used should be changed to "compensatory time" and the same > should not be less than 20 minutes per hour of examination for persons > who are making use of scribe/reader/lab assistant. All the candidates > with disability not availing the facility of scribe may be allowed > additional time of minimum of one hour for examination of 3 hours duration which could > further be increased on cases to case basis. The word "extra time or > additional time" that is being currently used should be changed to > "compensatory time" and the same should not be less than 20 minutes > per hour of examination for persons who are allowed use of > scribe/reader/lab assistant. All the candidates with benchmark > disability not availing the facility of scribe may be allowed > additional time of minimum of one hour for examination of 3 hours > duration. In case the duration of the examination is less than an > hour, then the duration of additional time should be allowed on pro-rata basis. Additional time should not be less than 5 minutes and should > be in the multiple of 5. The Commission provides compensatory time > of 20 minutes per hour for the duration of the Examination to > candidates suffering from blindness/LDCP irrespective of the fact > whether they use the facility of scribe or not. > > Further, as regards allowing the facility of compensatory time to the > candidates of other benchmark disabilities, the Commission suggests > that this facility of compensatory time may be extended to such > candidates provided they produce the certificate on physical > limitation to write issued by the CMO of Government Hospital of > respective District only as suggested in case of facility of scribe (Clause III). > > It is further stated that since the Commission does not ask > for any certificate including PwBD at initial application stage, the > Commission would allow such candidates of other benchmark disabilities > the facility of compensatory time for appearing at the First Stage > (Preliminary/Stage-I) in a Multi-Stage Examination on the basis of > undertaking from them. 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