Sorry.
I understand what you are saying, but that does not answer my question.
It shows two berths available, but allots only one, and escort gets normal 
available or WL.
Then, it shows not available in HP qota, meaning both the berths are blocked.

I can understand if the first berth is booked without escort by a disabled, so 
second berth is given, and escort is alotted normal available, but here it 
appears to be clearly a policy shift by the railways which needs to be 
vehemently  opposed.


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Santosh Singh
Sent: 27 November 2018 14:06
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AI] HP quota

Dear Rajesh,

Even I have faced this situation as described in your email.

I guess the reasons could be anyone from the below mentioned points

(1) Indian Railways reserve 4 berths in Sleeper and 2 berths in 3 AC 
coaches.Many OH and HH people who book their ticket under this quota have opted 
for without escort option as they are comfortable travelling alone.
Hence the last handicapped berth may or may not be available with  berth for 
escort.Further Madras High court has directed Southern Railways to allow OH 
people to book tickets with or without escort. Earlier booking ticket  with 
escort was compulsory hence now many such OH have opted without escort option 
if they  can manage and want to travel alone.

(2) The problem of not getting tickets in 3AC coach is even more severe because 
only 2 berths are reserved. If the first is booked as without escort option 
then for next booking the escort might get a wait listed ticket or may be in 
some other coach.

I hope I have answered your query.

Santosh Singh
On 27 Nov 2018 10:35 am, "Asudani, Rajesh" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Friends
> As all of us Indian railways provides handicapped quota of two/four
> berths in slipper class.
> Recently, it was introduced in AC 3 tire also.
>
> However, they have changed norms for it, making it a difficult experience.
>
> Only the disabled passenger is given the berth and the escort is given
> wait listed, or RAC or whatever normal availability is there.
>
> Now it highly problematic as:
>
> 1.       Escort is given seat somewhere else, maybe in another coach
> defeating the purpose of escorting in the train.
>
> 2.       Many a times, no confirm berth is given to escort.
>
> 3.       Both the seats are shown as blocked, even if only one seat is
> being given to the disabled, most probably normal waiting list is
> confirmed on the remaining seat, thus snatching the berth from HP quota.
>
> Maybe, railways has in mind to benefit more number of disabled by
> giving quota only to them and not to the escorts.
> But, escort is the genuine need, and Orthopedically handicapped
> persons are given tickets only with the escort.
>
> On the whole, it is totally undesirable, needlessly troubling the
> disabled, and we should vehemently protest.
>
> Now, it is the time for vehement action, if not violent action.
>
>
>
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