All

This thread is not in healthy territory and I now close it with immediate effect.

Regards

Harish Kotian

Moderator

AccessIndia


On 04/02/2021 10:13, Pratham Kumar Singh wrote:
Yes, I agree with you Mahendra sir.
We all are here to do healthy discussion, but some of our fellow
members are trying to cross their limits.
There is an appropriate way to express our thoughts, show our
disagreement and criticize someone.


On 2/4/21, 'Mahendra Galani' via AccessIndia
<[email protected]> wrote:
because you are here to discuss, and not score the point.
on base of some once spelling.

not sure after we migrated to current
server,  that you will find ruling of Harish Moderator on this subject
look in the old archive,
purpose  of any language is to communacate,
since you understood, what he ment,
   that only matters.

my young friend, don't be always so  argumentative
we don't want to denigrate anyone here.
unfortunately  you are doing just that.

11:00 PM 2/3/2021 +0530, you wrote:
Why not, when the word has been used so many times in the discussion,
and when even the sound of jaws tells you the difference between
'budget' and 'budged'
So, come up with a better justification the next time, okay?
On 2/3/21, 'Mahendra Galani' via AccessIndia
<[email protected]> wrote:
Avichal, please talk about the point, don't be so
arrogant, do not make comment about English spelling of someone.
English is not first language of many of us, please remember.

At 01:00 PM 2/3/2021 +0530, you wrote:
Of course, when people who don't even know the correct spelling of
budget start distributing gyan, then its certainly advisable to close
the thread.

On 2/3/21, Mangal Hazra <[email protected]> wrote:
Disability and patriotism are not same

Simply this thread called "politicization" Not a healthy discussion.


So better to close the thread " With acknowledgement Govt Taken
Historical
Decision as, always and Made Historic Budged of the Century.



On Wed, 3 Feb, 2021, 12:23 pm Sandesh, <[email protected]>
wrote:

First, this post opening after clicking a CNBCTV link has nothing
to
do
either with disability or any disability related organization, as
was
your
yesterday's Anganvadi press release posted to the group.

Could write alot on the matter if there was any substance.
and As stated yesterday, I have closed the thread from my side as
Told
to
Asif! and I keep my word.

Vande Mataram

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Sharad Philip <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 03, 2021 3:41 AM
*Subject:* Re: [AI] Disabled Cold Shouldered in Budget




https://www.cnbctv18.com/healthcare/highest-ever-health-budget-allocation-is-it-good-enough-8176211.htm
<https://www.cnbctv18.com/healthcare/highest-ever-health-budget-allocation-is-it-good-enough-8176211.htm>
Here is a link to read more on the ludicrous budget - what a gimmick
-
underhanded too - ripping off the country saying 137% increase in
the
overall helathcare budget when most of it is to be one time spends.
And then there is the overall decline in total allocation to the
health
ministry.
Great news is that we have another fund to donate to -
If you come across the details for the spending of the PMCARES fund
please
do let know ....
When will we learn to call a spade a spade ?


Dr Sharad Philip

On 03-Feb-2021, at 1:30 AM, Sandesh <[email protected]>
wrote:


         Ha, Ha, Ha!
I don't know to express this in English, but in Hindi it's
beautifully
summed up:
"Ulta Chor Kotwal ko danten".

NPRD is "nation builders and defenders ", Joke of the 21st century!

No need to say more, as Asif requested me to close the thread.
Honoring
it
from my side, my friend!

Jay Hind

Vande Mataram

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Vaishnavi Jayakumar (Inclusive India)
<[email protected]>
*To:* Access Forum <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 03, 2021 12:28 AM
*Subject:* Re: [AI] Disabled Cold Shouldered in Budget

I was surprised to read some people's objections to the NPRD media
release, so went back now and reread it. Expectedly it is a good,
objective, reasonably thorough summary of yesterday's budget
announcement
vis a vis disability issues.

I have seen and experienced this kind of name-calling and loose
talk
in
other groups and I must say I never expected to come across it
here.

Please desist from this bully-like behaviour, wasting the time of
nation
builders and defenders with unsubstantiated allegations and
questionable
statements.

The government is not a child to require a lollipop or fake
compliment
to
temper our irate response to a budget that further shrinks our
resources.
Nor does it require your pouncing to the government's defence and
retaliating with rubbish to people whose only 'crime'
is to point out the obvious. Research the budget and you'll reach
the
same
unavoidable conclusion that the NPRD statement outlines,
irrespective
of
your politics and preferences.


On Tue, 2 Feb, 2021, 12:33 am Sandesh, <[email protected]>
wrote:

Exactly Avichal!
very well said, even I wanted to come to these points.
The language of such groups is absolutely nonacceptable.
These people even don't know the difference between "Atmanirbhar"
and
"Atma". I also don't find anything wrong using the word Divyang.
and
I
can
vouch for many disabled who love the word Divyang in place of
Vikalang.
In short, they don't even know what to say where and when. or to
be
precise,
they say things
selectively. This is not going to do anything good for the sector
as
whole!
I feel there is no
need even to praise the government, only admitting the facts would
suffice
here.
But the way things are discussed by such organisations, it seems
that
they
say things for the
sake of saying. I don't know which masters are they trying to
please
instead
of working
honestly for the cause of Divyangjan.

They support the Farmers' protest using name of disabled
(everybody
knows
what happened on Red Fort on 26th of January), they come to the
help
of
criminals (Sorry, sorry, Hard-core
criminals) charged by NIA like Stan Swami, they condemn the
statement
of
Khushbu Sundar on some frivolous grounds because she leaves the
Congress
and
join the BJP and smartly ignore the same kind of statements of
people
like
Salman Khurshid and others because maybe these people are perfect
to
suit
the agenda of such groups who want to insist anything on in the
sweet
name
of disabled!

is this the work of/and/for  disability? I even heard that they
signed
the
petition exhibiting
solidarity with people showing mercy to killers of many inocent
countrymen
(Yes, I am referring
to Yakoob Menon) to Rashtrapati of India.
for people like me and all members (around 100 blind Karyakartas
of
Samarth
Bharat Manch from
various parts of India) all these activities comes under
antisocial
catagory. not only this,

for us, all such things could easily be classified as anti-india
activities.
I believe there
shouldn't be any reason for disagreeing here with all that is
said.

Asking here the question to NPRD for the sake of curiosity,
nothing
more
nothing less, and yes,
you are free not to answer as well, because I wasn't here on the
list
that
time, what kind of
support you provided to Sadhvi Pragya and Kernal Purohit, because
Sadhvi
did
bound to
wheelchair and Mr. Purohit became almost disabled by the police
treatment.
entire country saw their condition. I hope you mustn't have
remembered
humanity or disability then. or you did not have any helping hand
at
that
time.
I'm not saying it was your fault but why then such huge love and
support
for
Yakoob Menon, Stan
Swami and Farmers' agitation?

Concisely, they are doing the well-planned work. Cause of disabled
is
just
the tag they have
been carrying, their actual purpose is to push the ideological
propaganda
as
adeptly described
by Avichal. I myself could not find any other appropriate word for
such
henous work and that is
in the name of disability. nothing could be worse than this!

the government of India has provided ten months exemption to the
disabled
employees working not
only with the central government but also in PSUs and many more
offices.
The
government even
advise these offices to allot such disabled employees proper work
from
home
opportunities wherever possible. Sadly but factually, there were
some
who
did take undue advantage of this
exemption. But NPRD and such people must not be aware of this!
right?

in short, they are free to create and work with any narrative and
agenda/propaganda, set forth
by them but why to do all this in the name of disabled? or to say
it
properly, drag the
disability to quench their own ideologicaal thirst?

there was time when such activism in any name could easily be
digested,
but
the things have changed now, you just cannot take people for
granted
by
doing any agitation using shield of disability. this is nothing
but
carrying
and continuing with their business (Dhandha, as they correctly say
in
Hindi)
by encashing disability and/or people with disability everywhere.

Sorry for the longish mail.
but someone someday had to write this all.

Regards

Vande Mataram

Sandesh

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Sent: Monday, February 01, 2021 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disabled Cold Shouldered in Budget


The bitter fact is that we, the disabled, aren't a votebank; hence
we
will be on nobody's priority list.
However, another fact which we all must clearly understand is that
we
can achieve anything only via negotiations as we fail to make any
electoral impact.
Yes, the government must be made aware about the issues of the
disabled, but I vehemently disagree from the stand of NPRD as
since
the beginning of 2014, I haven't found this organization ever
praising
the government for anything.
This proves that they work with a partisan agenda and have
nefarious
designs.
I can prove my point by pointing to the selective mails of NPRD
posted
here.
We mustn't forget that the government of India has not only
provided
free ration for many months to the needy disabled but has also
given
ten months exemption to the disabled employees working with the
central government.
So, we must stick to our demands and have no compromise on the
welfare
of our community, but on the other hand we must also be aware
about
insidious groups trying to push their ideological propaganda in
the
name of disability activism.



On 2/1/21, anirudh rao <[email protected]> wrote:
yes this has been the long demand.
but, nothing can be accepted from the government that speaks
much
and
acts
less.

On 2/1/21, Tanmay Srivastava <[email protected]> wrote:
According to me now disability is not the subject of welfare.

Now it should not be the part of ministry of social justice and
empowerment.

It is the high time to make aware the government that
government
should
create separate ministry for the empowerment of people with
disabilities.
Looking forward to everyone's response.

On Mon 1 Feb, 2021, 4:26 PM National Platform For The Rights of
the
Disabled, <[email protected]> wrote:

February 1, 2021



*Press Statement*



The National Platform for the Rights of the Disabled (NPRD)
has
issued
the
following statement:



*Union Budget: Disabled Cold Shouldered*



The NPRD lodges its strong protest at the substantial
reduction
in
budgetary support to the Department of Empowerment of Persons
with
Disabilities. Even the meagre and inadequate Rs. 1325.39
estimated
last
time, has been further reduced to Rs. 1171.77 crores this
time.



This substantial reduction of nearly 12 per cent will
adversely
impact
various schemes and programmes that are being undertaken by
the
department. The
“Scheme for Implementation for
Persons with Disabilities Act† sees a
cut
in
its allocation from Rs. 251.50 to Rs. 209.77 crores. The
National
Trust
which caters to persons with autism, cerebral palsy,
intellectual
disabilities etc. is also witnessing lesser budgetary support.
It
has
been reduced from Rs. 39.50 to Rs. 30.00 crore. Even
allocations
to
the
National Programme for Prevention of Blindness have been
reduced
by
nearly
50 per cent from Rs. 20.00 to Rs. 10.50 crores as compared to
last
year.
Grant in aid to state governments have also been reduced
substantially.


When more disabled people are joining the ranks of the
unemployed,
it
would have been prudent to enhance allocations for the
National
Handicapped
Finance and Development Corporation, to enable it to provide
loans
to
small
businesses set up by disabled people. On the contrary
budgetary
support
to
the NHFDC has been drastically reduced from Rs. 41 crore
provisioned
in
the
2019-20 budget to a mere Rs. 0.01 crore this time. The
announcements
made
to vigorously pursue privatization of various public sector
undertakings
will adversely impact the disabled also. With the government
unrelenting
on
the demand to extend reservations to the private sector,
shrinking
employment avenues in the government sector will see the ranks
of
the
unemployed disabled bourgeoning.



The total expenditure earmarked for the national programmes
for
welfare
of
persons with disabilities has been reduced from Rs. 655 to Rs.
584
crores.
The
total towards schemes/projects has been reduced from Rs.
780.00
to
Rs.
709.77 crores, this time. The total expenditure towards Social
security
&
welfare has seen a reduction from Rs. 1126.79 to Rs. 988.59.
Disability
pension continues to be stagnant at Rs. 300 for the past many
years.



In the pandemic situation, which saw a huge escalation in the
number
of
mental health cases, the allocations made towards mental
health
displays
the total lack of acknowledgement of the crisis. Allocations
to
the
National Mental Health Programme remains constant at Rs. 40.00
crore.
No
support has been earmarked for the National Institute of
Mental
Health &
Research for the last two years. However, unlike last time,
there
has
been
a slight increase in allocations to the National Institute of
Mental
Health and Neurosciences, Bengaluru and the Lokpriya Gopinath
Bordoli
Regional Institute of Mental Health, Tezpur.



What is even more glaring is the complete omission of flagship
programme
started by this government the *Accessible India* campaign.



The government remains content with bestowing divine status and
a
label
of
*divyang,
*even while pursuing policies that confine disabled citizens
to
the
margins. Displaying complete indifference, during the entire
two-hour
long
rhetoric filled speech by the Finance Minister, not once did
she
refer
to
disabled persons. Disabled *atmas*
don̢۪t matter. In earlier budgets,
,
the
disabled were disregarded or neglected. This time they have
been
cold
shouldered. This is deplorable. The NPRD calls upon the
disabled
community
to rise in unison and protest this disabled-unfriendly budget.





*(Muralidharan)*

*General Secretary*


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