Then instead of living with your family and brothers then why went to Austria and settled, because of fed up off Indian society and went to Austria, Hahaa
On 7/22/21, 'Mahendra Galani' via AccessIndia <[email protected]> wrote: > in my case, i lost my father, when i was only 15, few years before > that, turn blind at the age of 12 in year 1972, > since both my older brothers were not so good at school > , could not get good paying jobs. > my mom was supplying milk > in our neighbourhood to supplement meagre income. > > i am proud > of my family, who provided me further aducation, inspite of all the odds. > . > > luckily there thhinking was positive, unlike some of our friends here. > At 12:32 PM 7/22/2021 +0530, you wrote: >>Hi Friends, >> >>I belong to a lower middle class family and have not been treated in >>any way that compromised my dignity. Also, I know of many people with >>disabilities who have done well despite their disabilities and lower >>socioeconomic background. I have never had servants or any help and >>in fact, I hate to depend upon sighted folks unless there is something >>that just cannot be attained due to lack of vision. >> >>I am surprised that people with disabilities also count themselves as >>nonpersons. Good luck disabled community since we are our own >>destroyer. Let us then also ask for repeal of Rights of Persons with >>Disabilities Act, 2016 as we don't really exist. >> >>And, Avichal, Mahendra has risen from a lower middle class family in >>Mumbai who was educated in a school for the blind. Let us not have >>any political agenda while discussing issues. Having said all this, I >>will always fight for your right to express your views as that is the >>liberty that we must subscribe to . >> >>Stay safe. >> >>Ketan >> >>On 19/07/2021, [email protected] <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > I do not regularly post in this group. However, after reading the >> > discussion >> > on S. 15 of the UP Population Control Bill, I felt compelled to speak. >> > If >> > we >> > cannot collectively raise our voices against such blatant display of >> > ableism >> > and pure and simple discrimination, then we might as well shut this >> > group >> > down and go home. These words sound harsh, I know, but nothing less >> > would >> > suffice to respond to the insensitivity displayed by those supporting >> > the >> > provisions at issue. Here are my thoughts. >> > >> > >> > >> > First, please understand what this provision [S. 15] seeks to do. It >> > seeks >> > to inscribe into law a provision that would say that the rule that you >> > can >> > only have two children, created by this law, will not apply in the >> > event >> > that you have a disabled child. In such cases, you are entitled to have >> > three children. In other words, the Bill says that a disabled child >> > simply >> > does not count as a child. It says that, as parents, you are entitled to >> > a >> > do over if a child with a disability is born to you. >> > >> > >> > >> > Second, if the above does not constitute a frontal assault to the >> > dignity >> > of >> > disabled bodies, I wonder what does. If the above provision does not >> > negate >> > the personhood of the disabled, I wonder what does. If the above >> > provision >> > does not inscribe into law the most horrific stereotypes about having a >> > disability that we all seek to confront everyday in direct and indirect >> > ways, I wonder what does. >> > >> > >> > >> > Third, to say that the bill would have been criticized even if it did >> > not >> > have such a provision and hence we should just put up with our >> > statutorily >> > sanctioned humiliation and negation, I am sorry to say, reflects a way >> > of >> > thinking that is dismissive at best and appallingly discriminatory at >> > worst. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Fourth, the claim that the criticism of the provision is only academic >> > and >> > is divorced from prevailing ground realities is an equally problematic >> > view. >> > It is true that many still view having a disabled child as a curse. >> > That >> > they feel that a disabled offspring will not be able to contribute >> > productively. That she would be an undue burden. And that there is a >> > need >> > to >> > have an able-bodied child to compensate for this deficit. However, the >> > existence of this thought process is a reason for us to fight tooth and >> > nail >> > against any attempts to codify these beliefs into law. We must do >> > everything >> > we can to interrogate, contest and dismantle this type of thinking. Not >> > put >> > our weight behind those who seek to legitimize it by inscribing it into >> > law. >> > In other words, the ground realities that one member speaks of are the >> > very >> > reason why we should fight back against this provision. >> > >> > >> > >> > Fifth, as another member points out, the selfsame arguments that are >> > being >> > deployed to support this provision have been used in the past to >> > support >> > attempts to kill the girl child. Many facts of life that confront us in >> > everyday life are horrendous and unfortunate. That is no reason to >> > defend a >> > law that seeks to sanction these unfortunate realities. >> > >> > >> > >> > Sixth, as disabled people who strive everyday to realize our full >> > potential >> > and to break down the barriers standing in our way, it is profoundly >> > sad >> > that some of us are willing to unhesitatingly subscribe to the >> > stereotypes >> > that this provision embodies. Do we really think that a disabled life >> > matters less? That a disabled person cannot contribute productively? >> > That >> > they cannot do as well as, if not surpass, their able-bodied siblings? >> > To >> > the extent that this is so, isn't the society we inhabit also to blame >> > for >> > the disabled not realizing their full potential? >> > >> > >> > >> > Lastly, granted, some children may actually be born with disabilities >> > that >> > are so severe and limiting that they may not be able to lead lives of >> > productivity or a life without significant pain. Even if we accept for >> > a >> > moment that a deviation from the two child norm would be okay in such >> > cases, >> > that is not what this bill does. The provision does not deal with >> > disabilities meeting such a high bar. It applies to those with all 21 >> > disabilities covered by the 2016 Act, irrespective of their impact on >> > the >> > disabled child. >> > >> > >> > >> > I will conclude with the painful observation that the ableism displayed >> > by >> > the disabled sometimes surpasses that exhibited by the able-bodied. >> > With >> > friends like these, who needs enemies? >> > >> > >> > >> > Rahul >> > >> > -- >> > Disclaimer: >> > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the >> thinking of the >> > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its >> > veracity; >> > >> > 2. 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