Dear Anirudh Rao,
Thanks for your feedback. Still something doesn't make sense to me. If the packages are now based on unlimited calls, then why do these companies also offer 10, 20 and 100 Rupees Talktime topups, which when purchased, gives no actual talktime? They expect you to buy time packages separately, even when those packages come with their unlimited voice calls for the duration of the package. So what use then is these small packages and why are they sold? Is this not theft as the end-user cannot use those talktime packages sold based on units usage, and yet there's nothing else sensible to couple them with to get them working? And even if there are time-only packs, they are so expensive so that to use a 20 Rupee talktime you have to buy say 128 Rupees of time validity? That's like saying to a poor person "If you can't afford dry bread, give me back the bread and go eat cream cake!"

Anyway thanks all for this feedback. Back in South Africa we still have 1 provider that allows us to buy airtime and use it for calls, SMS and Data on a unit charge basis, which only expires when the money has run out, and so long as your sim card is in your phone you never lose the right to receive incoming calls. In India they not only take that away, but they embarras their customer by telling the other party who calls them that the customer cannot receive calls because they did not recharge their phone number! This is professional humiliation in action!

Yamuna Jivana Dasa
-----Original Message----- From: anirudh rao
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 10:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AI] Re: Looking for Cellular provider with Accessible App and helpdesk

hi Yamuna Jivana Dasa,
it is for the good that we have tarriffs based on days and not on the
usage units.
that is how the data and calls have become almost unlimitted.
you can take any operator of your choice and check your balance and
recharge through UPI apps like google pay which is very much
accessible.

On 3/22/23, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Yamuna,
Now a days,  validity of recharge is based upon days but not on
balance amount in the mobile. You can contact 198 for your queries  /
complaints on your mobile operator.



On 3/22/23, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Folks,
I’m adding one more item to this list which I forgot in my previous
message.
I am looking for your personal experience on a combination of the
following
factors:
1. A cellular provider whose App is accessible to Talkback for Android,
or
which uses a good Web interface to view account balance and prepaid
history
that can be navigated from a PC Web Browser.
2. A cellular provider which offers simple pricing without funny bells
and
whistles but does what it is supposed to do: allows the user to make
phone
calls and use Data at the best prices.
3. If possible, a cellular provider which charges by usage unit prices
and
not by expiry dates.
4. A cellular provider which has a helpdesk number that actually
effectively
leads to a human operator.

Any advice will be appreciated. You can write me off-list if this might
hog
the list, although I believe the accessibility questions may prove useful
to
others here.


Yamuna Jivana Dasa

From: Harish Kotian
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 11:31 AM
To: [email protected] ; Muralidharan Vishwanath
Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID

Hi

It is necessary to start with a deadline.Sure enough, looking at the data
it
will be extended. Glad to know you concur with UDID implementation.We
have
seen with linking PAN with Adhar, the deadline was extended.




We too tend to lax without a deadline.



May I clear the myth which tends to be propagated in some quarters that I
am
arbitrary in intervening in a flamed and out of scope postings.It was
certainly spelt out without context presently.



In many occasion in the past there was a effort to have a single
disability
card. However, the effort was halfhearted then. Hopefully, linked with
Adhar
it really happens.

We too need to keep the pressure that it happens.



Harish



On 19/03/2023 10:47, Muralidharan Vishwanath wrote:

  For your information, it is the NPRD which advocated for a universally
valid ID for disabled right at its inception in 2010.
  It was also  at the NPRD's behest that the universal validity of the
disability certificate was incorporated into the RPD Act, 2016.

  Therefore, the allegation that we are attempting to"stalling" this
effort
is baseless and malafide. (I am sure, I too will be kicked out of the
list
now).

  But the DEPwD is setting a deadline of April 1, 2023 even while more
than
half of the disabled population who possess disability certificates have
not
been issued UDID cards. How can this be accepted?

  Secondly, the central government's own departments do not accept the
UDID
- railways for instance insists that one should procure the card that it
is
issuing. Every year several cases are highlighted of MBBS aspirants whose
UDID cards are rejected and a reverification of their disability done at
designated centres. This defeats the very purpose of the UDID.

  I am not going into the various issues with the procurement of UDID
that
people face, that is a different matter.

  The NPRD's interest is to see that all disabled are able to get UDID in
a
hassle free process. When the disability certificate is replaced by the
UDID
and becomes valid for all purposes, it is natural that it will become
mandatory (like the certificate earlier) for availing any scheme.

  What we have asked for is the difficulties that people are facing in
the
procurement of the UDID so that we can take it up with the government.
Let
me make it loud and clear. We have not and do not intend to stall or
oppose
the UDID.

  All the best sathiyo.


  On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:52 AM Harish Kotian <[email protected]>
wrote:

    Hi

    It is my personal opinion that UDID should be made mandatory for
availing all services for the disabled.It should be the only
identification
means for authenticating disability.




    Having said this, all the services should be put in place before the
D
date and scaling  up should be fully factored in. There are numerous
benefits to us through UDID. We should not fall into the temptation of
stalling the effort and rather we should clearly not join them.




    There may be some difficulty for sometime. That always happens during
transition. As what they say, you don't throw the baby with the bathwater




    I am well aware, there is going to be sharp reactions to my line of
thought, however I am convinced UDID is progressive and disabled friendly
and this is the most important thing which can make huge changes for our
benefit.




    Harish



    On 19/03/2023 06:43, bhawani shankar verma wrote:

      UDID should not be mada mandatory. we must fight collectively for
it.


      On Sat, 18 Mar 2023, 9:09 pm Amar Jain, <[email protected]>
wrote:

        I would like to help you out to address your concerns. I am a
corporate lawyer and have an interface with the authorities you are
struggling with.

        Is there a way we can speak? I am reachable on 9892622230. Thank
you.


        Sent from my iPhone


          On 18-Mar-2023, at 12:55 PM, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)
<[email protected]> wrote:


          
          Dear Muralidharan,

          Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some
success. In India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something
inaccessible to achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5
biscuits each from the packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit
packet on the table even before the distribution to all the attendees.
This
is my experience having come to India. Very sad and ironical. Aadhaar for
the blind is impossible here in Vrindavana because the agents say the
retina
scan cannot be bypassed. Without Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either. When I
went to buy my home, they refused because a blind person cannot own
property. We have to be linked with a sighted person who has Aadhaar so
that
the property can be registered with the sighted person’s name. I am very
hurt by this behaviour in India, and there seems to be no authority in
place
who really cares to actually do something.
          Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated. Sometimes I
feel life was better under our former captivity of slave-owners and later
the African leadership who hate Indians in Africa. I came to India to
become
free. How wrong was I? Now having returned home after 4 generations away,
I
return home only to find we are slaves here to a highly corrupt and
disorganized administration. For example, the National number for the
Aadhaar Helpdesk is 1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not
exist!!!

          Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you are
fighting a very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan
Sri
Ramachandra who was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk with
you – no – carry you through this fight.

          Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa)
          From: Muralidharan Vishwanath
          Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM
          To: [email protected]
          Subject: [AI] Issues with UDID

          March 18, 2023



          As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from
April 1, 2023 for registering for central government schemes.



          This even while more than half of the disabled who have
certificates, have not been issued UDID or have enrolled but not been
issued
certificates, or have been unable to enroll for it, due to various
issues.



          UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s
own
ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to MBBS, for
recruitment in jobs,  or many institutes of higher learning are refusing
to
accept the validity of the card



          The NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory
imposition of the UDID.



          It has also raised the issue of the refusal by various
departments
to accept its validity.



          Notwithstanding this, we would like to list before the
department,
the issues that the disabled are facing with regard to procuring UDID.



          One of the main issues that has been identified especially in
the
rural areas is about non-availability of seva kendras, private centres
charging hefty amounts, or they being far away including their
inaccessibility. Second issue identified is about card not being issued
despite passage of a long time after enrollment.



          We are seeking a meeting with the Secretary DEPwD next week.
The
issues that we are attempting to list will be placed before him.



          You are requested to assist us by informing us of the issues
that
you face. You may please mail to us by March 20, 2023 evening at
[email protected]





          Muralidharan

          General Secretary

          NPRD

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