Hi Subramani
I have not as yet got an opportunity to travel long distance in these
coaches.
But I think there is a good enough reason to have them presently.
1 I understand the toilet is fully accessible to wheel chair user here.
2 In my understanding, it is supposed to be an unreserved compartment. It is
virtually impossible for a disabled person to get in the general compartment
on some sectors and no one would care for a disabled person otherwise.
3 It would take a lot of time before all coaches imbibe universal design and
fascilities.
In the interim we certainly need to have them.
Few folks infact take the trouble to report these to the appropriate
authorityand we live with these at times cribbing occasionally.
It is not a good idea throwing the baby along with the bath water.
Harish Kotian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Subramani L" <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] My Experience in the Handicapped Coach but SL Coachasper
Railway.
Pardon me putting across such a view, if any of you find this
unacceptable. Why should there be a handicapped coach in the first
place, if all of us can avail concessions through tickets of all kinds
(except, of course, in Shatabdi and Rajdani)? If the thing is about
finding a birth or a seat to travel, we are no better than others and so
--except in the case of persons with severe disability-- I wonder if we
should insist on having coaches like this at all. Fact is, we should ask
such "unique" identities be scrapped in order for us to be more
mainstream.
Subramani
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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:09 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My Experience in the Handicapped Coach but SL Coach
asper Railway.
This very thing had happened to me about ten months back and I had
expressed it on AI.
I don't know whether any demand to observe decency and logic while
demarcating handicapped coach was included in the demands to railway
minister a few days ago, which of course she has chosen to thrust in
cold storage!!!!!!!
Rajesh Asudani
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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Parthiban
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:21 AM
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] My Experience in the Handicapped Coach but SL Coach as per
Railway.
Dear Friends,
In continuation to our discussion about the handicapped coach, we had
one or two months back, I would like to share my horrible experience
which I had on 9th July while I was returning from Mumbai to Chennai in
the train No.2163 which runs from Dhadhar (Mumbai) to Egmore (Chennai).
While I was trying to locate my Berth, I could find it in the So-called
SL Coach by Railway, but in fact it was designed for handicapped and it
is still running as handicapped coaches in many trains even now.
Initially, I sought the help of the Policeman who was on the duty there
who showed the so-called SL coach in which many people were already
sitting two of them were lying on the upper berths. I and my friend
showed the ticket, but the passengers refused to vacate the seats and
pleaded that the coach is meant for handicapped and there can be no
meaning of reservation. In consequence, again we sought the assistance
of the Policeman, he came and showed the chart displayed to the
passengers and asked them to sit on the floor of the coach so that the
seats can be occupied by the 4 reserved candidates. I mean to say that
he clarified as per his law that the seats are for reserved candidates
and the handicapped and old people without reservation can travel by
sitting on the
floor. Now, it is neither reserved coach nor handicapped coach
strictly speaking.
As my humanism didn't allow to travel individually in the seat, I had to
adjust two of the orthopedic candidates with me in the seat for the
whole night. Up to Gulbarga, (Karnataka) the coach was full and after
that step-by-step, the coach was emptied. But to our surprise, in very
many stations, The Railway Police argued that the compartment should be
opened to the handicapped persons but in the chart it was mentioned that
only 4 persons are permitted. It was a real mockery on that day.
Friends, in the four seats, two were reserved in handicapped quota and
the other two were reserved on the medical quota. Now, my doubt is
whether the handicapped coach is available in the long distance trains
or not or the Railway wants to run as handicapped compartment in the
short distance trains and in the long distance trains as reserved coach
in handicapped quota.
Please express your opinion in this regard and be careful in future if
your ticket is reserved in handicapped quota and is allotted in SL
coach.
With regards.
Parthiban M.
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