Harish and all, Just a quick comment. You said "... 1 I understand the toilet is fully accessible to wheel chair user here...."
Yes, the toilet is accessible to wheel chair users. However, the first point is that wheel chair user should be able to get into this coach. I doubt the space that the entrance has would allow that. Also, there should be a foldable ramp. Srinivasu -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of harish Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AI] My Experience in the Handicapped Coach but SLCoachasper Railway. Hi Subramani I have not as yet got an opportunity to travel long distance in these coaches. But I think there is a good enough reason to have them presently. 1 I understand the toilet is fully accessible to wheel chair user here. 2 In my understanding, it is supposed to be an unreserved compartment. It is virtually impossible for a disabled person to get in the general compartment on some sectors and no one would care for a disabled person otherwise. 3 It would take a lot of time before all coaches imbibe universal design and fascilities. In the interim we certainly need to have them. Few folks infact take the trouble to report these to the appropriate authorityand we live with these at times cribbing occasionally. It is not a good idea throwing the baby along with the bath water. Harish Kotian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Subramani L" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [AI] My Experience in the Handicapped Coach but SL Coachasper Railway. > Pardon me putting across such a view, if any of you find this > unacceptable. Why should there be a handicapped coach in the first > place, if all of us can avail concessions through tickets of all kinds > (except, of course, in Shatabdi and Rajdani)? If the thing is about > finding a birth or a seat to travel, we are no better than others and so > --except in the case of persons with severe disability-- I wonder if we > should insist on having coaches like this at all. Fact is, we should ask > such "unique" identities be scrapped in order for us to be more > mainstream. > > Subramani > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Asudani, > Rajesh > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:09 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AI] My Experience in the Handicapped Coach but SL Coach > asper Railway. > > This very thing had happened to me about ten months back and I had > expressed it on AI. > I don't know whether any demand to observe decency and logic while > demarcating handicapped coach was included in the demands to railway > minister a few days ago, which of course she has chosen to thrust in > cold storage!!!!!!! > > > > > Rajesh Asudani > > Assistant General Manager (PPS), > Reserve Bank of India > Nagpur > 09420397185 > O: 0712 2806676 > Res: 0712 2591349 > Doth God exact day-labour, light denied?" > John Milton > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Parthiban > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:21 AM > To: Access India > Subject: [AI] My Experience in the Handicapped Coach but SL Coach as per > Railway. > > Dear Friends, > > > > In continuation to our discussion about the handicapped coach, we had > one or two months back, I would like to share my horrible experience > which I had on 9th July while I was returning from Mumbai to Chennai in > the train No.2163 which runs from Dhadhar (Mumbai) to Egmore (Chennai). > > > > While I was trying to locate my Berth, I could find it in the So-called > SL Coach by Railway, but in fact it was designed for handicapped and it > is still running as handicapped coaches in many trains even now. > Initially, I sought the help of the Policeman who was on the duty there > who showed the so-called SL coach in which many people were already > sitting two of them were lying on the upper berths. I and my friend > showed the ticket, but the passengers refused to vacate the seats and > pleaded that the coach is meant for handicapped and there can be no > meaning of reservation. In consequence, again we sought the assistance > of the Policeman, he came and showed the chart displayed to the > passengers and asked them to sit on the floor of the coach so that the > seats can be occupied by the 4 reserved candidates. I mean to say that > he clarified as per his law that the seats are for reserved candidates > and the handicapped and old people without reservation can travel by > sitting on the > floor. Now, it is neither reserved coach nor handicapped coach > strictly speaking. > > > > As my humanism didn't allow to travel individually in the seat, I had to > adjust two of the orthopedic candidates with me in the seat for the > whole night. Up to Gulbarga, (Karnataka) the coach was full and after > that step-by-step, the coach was emptied. But to our surprise, in very > many stations, The Railway Police argued that the compartment should be > opened to the handicapped persons but in the chart it was mentioned that > only 4 persons are permitted. It was a real mockery on that day. > > > > Friends, in the four seats, two were reserved in handicapped quota and > the other two were reserved on the medical quota. Now, my doubt is > whether the handicapped coach is available in the long distance trains > or not or the Railway wants to run as handicapped compartment in the > short distance trains and in the long distance trains as reserved coach > in handicapped quota. > > > > Please express your opinion in this regard and be careful in future if > your ticket is reserved in handicapped quota and is allotted in SL > coach. > > > > With regards. > > > > > > Parthiban M. > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i > n > > Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential > and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > are addressed. 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