But Vhashisht, the question about our system is not how good is the
technology, but how effectively we use them and how commonsensical is
our policy and our bureaucracy. There will be little surprise if our
authorities fail to understand the prupose of something like NUIC.
Subramani
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SC
Vashishth
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AI] Demands & Strategies put forth at the
NationalConsultationon Issues related to Railways
Dear *Vamshi,* Great to know your experience but often they insist an
escort
with those with physical disabilities using crutches, wheelchairs and
other
assistive devices for mobility. I have seen few instances where they
insist
an escort even for a blind passenger.
*Amar,* the right way is to have a uniform disability certificate with
necessary imprints on it with electronic data chip on the lines of
Credit/Debit Card/Vehicle RC. Mr. Nandan Nilekani is working on the NUID
(national unique identity card) project which will solve these problems
to
great extent. This card will have all details in electronic form about
the
identityy of the person and his entitlements.
*Mukesh*, there have been several instances of misuse which needs to be
checked by authorities. I am not justifying their ill actions and I
agree
that there is an urgent need to sensitize the public dealing/clerical
staff
of railway booking counters on Disability Etiquette. Yes, I agree that
3%
quota of the total train space should be pushed for so that it becomes
easy
for the disabled and the elderly to travel with ease and comfort. That
is
why a full 72 seater reserved coach and one unreserved general class
coach
for the disabled has been demanded.
*Surya Prakash*, Railways are trying hard to compensate for losses that
they
incur on free ships hence, they are not keen on adding the passengers
with
Low Vision, but the fight should be on. There is lot of pilferage and if
this could be plugged, Low vision passengers could be easily
accommodated in
the quota.
*Ashwani,* thanks for raising a very relevant point of concessions in
Rajdhani, Shatabdi and Jan Shatabdi etc. This demand is being pushed for
a
long time with no success. Lower berth can be allotted if available as
that
is given on first come first serve basis.
*Rakesh,* there have been instances of misuse and fake certificates. So
railways want to cross-check the veracity of DC (Disability Certificate)
by
a CC (Concession Certificate) ! May be this can be done away with once
we
have the electronic ID Card in place.
regards,
2009/11/3 SC Vashishth <[email protected]>
No Rajesh, converting four general berth of Boggies for disabled in to
a
Reserved Disabled Quota was debated strongly that is why you see the
the
first two demands originating from that very issue. that is Increase
the
number of Reserved compartments to at least one reserved (72 seater)
and one
unreserved coach, secondly that they should not take away the existing
benefits.
The idea of having the boggies in the front or the rear was to ensure
that
people, hawkers should not disturb them in the through and through
connected
boggies. Secondly railways thought that it would be easy to assist
them by
the train Guard/Security if it is close to engine or at the rear near
parcel
van where generally the RPF constables are on deployed.
However, keeping the boggie in the middle of the train will have its
own
problems. Firstly, deploying police force may not be feasible as per
railway. Secondly not many people follow the rules strictly during the
day
and most of the coaches immediately in the centre get filled up with
unwanted crowd who are often short distance travellers and never
reserve
their seats. Even if it is a reserved compartment, people least bother
except in some trains in south India!!
regards
2009/11/3 Asudani, Rajesh <[email protected]>
Well, handicapped coach is in front or back because the same wrack
plies
back and forth without turning.
It would be wise to position it almost in middle and interconnecting
it
with rest of the train.
Surprisingly, demands and strategies discussed at Chennai do
not
mentionethe mess created by railways by converting four berths of
handicapped coach into HP quota and making the coach
reserved-cum-general...
Rajesh Asudani
Assistant General Manager,
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
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John Milton
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From: [email protected] [mailto:
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 8:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AI] Demands & Strategies put forth at the
NationalConsultation on Issues related to Railways
Respected Sir,
Would like to say following:
1. Uniformity in concession format.
Many a times I myself have faced the problem of difference in
concession
format, say if you make concession in Rajasthan, they generally do
not put
round seal. Further, their language is Hindi.
Specifically I face problem on chennai station. They never hear.
Everytime
I have to contact supervisor.
2. Since we are demanding online concession, they may raise the
problem
that many a times concessions are not maid in propper format, or
sometimes
some information is missing from the concession certificate.
There are various options to deal with such problem, the one which is
coming in my mind right now is to register your concession
certificate once
and then they can keep that number in their database. So when it is
verified
by railway, no problems in using online booking. Such thing can be
enshrined
in the concession certificate form itself.
3. this point has to do with implimentation, at every station we hear
the
coatch position. But I have never heard that where handicap coatch is
coming. So announcers must announce the same.
And there should be fixed place for handicap coatch because sometimes
they
keep it in front and sometimes in back side.
4. couple of times I have seen railways authorities misusing handicap
coatch. and when we tell them anything, they talk like railway is of
their
fourfathers.
So for various problems, need to have grievence redressal body.
Regards
Amar Jain.
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Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Demands & Strategies put forth at the
NationalConsultation on Issues related to Railways
Dear Vasisht sir,
> 5. Provide concession to the disabled person without an escort
I availed this facility several times. But yes, I have heard of
incidents where some of us were deprived of the same. So, I think
this is concerned more with the implementation than the legislation.
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On 10/30/09, SC Vashishth <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear Prashant and friends,
> The following was the Draft of the Demands & Strategies finalised
at the
> National Consultation held in Chennai last month on the issues with
Railways
> concerning disabilty Sector.
>
> *Demands*
> **
> 1. Increase the number of Reserved compartments to at least 1
reserved
> (72 seater) and 1 unreserved coaches
> 2. They should not take away the existing benefits
> 3. Budgetary allocations should be made.
> 4. Make concessions mandatory for e-ticket booking also.
> 5. Provide concession to the disabled person without an escort
> 6. Ramps at all stations
> 7. Accessible toilets in Trains and Railway stations
> 8. Make e booking more accessible for the disabled people
> 9. Need to have a Disability enquiry booth
> 10. Make sign language information possible for the hearing
impaired
> on display screens
> 11. The Disabled coach needs to be nearer to the platform entry
> 12. Separate Rest room with accessible toilet and medical
facilities
> 13. Consult the stake holders before the budget session
> 14. Ensure safety of women with disability
> 15. Formulate a committee consisting of stake holders to review
and
> implement the universal design model.
>
> *Strategies*
>
> 1. Focus on trains and stations at rural areas as much as the
urban
> railway network
> 2. Involve political participation from state level by
approaching
> chief ministers of the states / state MPs of both ruling and
opposition
> parties
> 3. Take the agenda to the central minister for Railways
> 4. To conduct sensitization programs for railway staff
> 5. To conduct awareness camps for political representatives
> 6. To take to streets if the demand is not implemented by the
Railways
> 7. Implementation of Specific designs for toilets
> 8. To ensure that representatives from the sector are elected
to
the
> legislative bodies at various levels.
> 9. Focus on larger issue of the universal accessibility rather
than
> limited accessibility
> 10. Audio signal in the trains and stations
> 11. Reconsider the renewal system of concession forms
> 12. Formulate Support services to be included from the entry
into
the
> station like electrical car , facility counter, etc.
> 13. National ID card to be considered as enough valid document
for
> Railway or other concessions.
> 14. To prepare a Shadow Report to UNCRPD
>
> --
> Warm regards,
>
> Subhash Chandra Vashishth
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