Hi friends!
Feel good to hear everyone everyone stressing the importance of reading Braille. I agree that there is a lack of enough reading materials in Braille. However, times have improved. There are many organizations/Braille presses in India from where you can acquire Braille books and improve your reading skills. If you search online, you can find a lot of organizations for and of the blind which offer free subscriptions of Braille books.
Just expressed my opinion.
Thanks


----- Original Message ----- From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan" <vadhimoo...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request


Here are my responses:

First, someone belonging to the English speaking region cannot and
should not be used as a role model in this debate since I am grappling
with terrible writings of such students in my class rooms. Second, I
fully endorse the suggestion of listening to sources like the BBC and
I would not have developed my own language skills without them. As
Subramani pointed out, I also come from the non-English speaking
background and that’s not something to be ashamed of. Nor can be an
excuse. Last but not the least, there may not be enough of materials
available in brail, but some available sources are certainly enough to
practice English reading/writing skills. Bible for example is one of
such sources and one does not need to be a religious person to read
it.

Vetri.


On 21/06/2010, Srinivasu Chakravarthula <sriniv...@srinivasu.org> wrote:
Reem,
I do agree with you, most of the material is not available in Braille, but
my suggestion of using Braille is just to put efforts to learn spellings.
For that matter, reading any literature may be helpful.

On a separate note, please write your reply on the top of the thread, so
that it's available easily to recipients. One possibly tip perhaps would
help you is, when you reach message body - may it be on web mail interface
or Microsoft Outlook or outlook express, Press Insert + Home to place cursor
and then type your reply. Once you are done writing, press Enter twice so
that your reply will get separated from the rest of the thread. Having said
that, as far as my experience goes, Microsoft Outlook place the cursor on
the top of the thread when you choose to reply / forward.
Thanks,

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula


-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of reem s
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 9:26 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request

On 6/21/10, Srinivasu Chakravarthula <sriniv...@srinivasu.org> wrote:
Reem,

This is why we highly recommend people to use Braille in school and if
they
are not schooled in English medium, at least one needs to have habit of
reading English books in Braille thus to improve spellings.

As far as I know, if someone who is visually impaired and wants to learn
spellings, perhaps, Braille would only possible solution.

Folks, correct me, if I am wrong.

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula

-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of reem s
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 8:42 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request

On 6/21/10, Subramani L <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in> wrote:
I gave the example of the American author's awful article to precisely
refute that notion. I am not an English speaker by birth and I have
learnt my English in the last 18 years (after I crossed my adolescence,
and ironically, after becoming blind). Even today, I don't speak English
at home. Well, had I not told you this, would you have recognised
yourself by reading my mails? Expressing your ideas clearly goes beyond
the confines of language.

Subramani




-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 6:00 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request

i am of the experience that a person study in his mother language, more
efficiently use English. because he always care about spellings and
grammar
errors.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Subramani L" <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request


The criteria is not if one has studied in English medium or have
learnt
English through and through at school. I have seen this in some blogs
and other platforms where the so-called learned folks share
information.
Even there, I found plenty of mistakes and very obvious grammatical
errors. I wish I am able to share a few examples, because recently I
read an article written by an "AUTHOR" (and, of all the things, she is
an American) which was full of errors... so much that it was hard to
believe that the person who actually wrote it was an author. Imagine
someone who is making a living out of writing putting out messages
like
that?

The root cause of poorly written mails in my opinion is lack of care.
People do not understand that their writing says something about them
and it definitely has an impact on other people and they have a
responsibility to write in an intelligible, clear way. I list the
following points which people may like to take into account while
writing:

1. Avoid SMS language. SMS language has had a negative influence on
people, particularly on youngsters. Believe me, how much ever you try
and simplify your writing in terms of shortening words and using
alphanumeric, writing, as a process, is essentially different from
speaking and you do not have the necessary expertise to use one for
the
other. So when writing, whether through a mobile phone or
twitter/facebook, treat it as a writing task.
2. Read sites like BBC, which uses simple sentences to convey the
news.
If you read it for a long time, it has an influence on the way you
write. If you need help in honing your language skills, you can switch
to learning English or other specific sites in BBC, which provide both
audio and text information for practice.
3. Never send a message without reading it at least once. I am having
a
terrible time with the keyboard I am using to type this message (and
so
many other things like filing my stories) since it doesn't type A with
a
single touch. I have to hit the key several times to get it typed, but
I
do it since I don't want my messages to appear bad (still you may find
a
word or two with a missing A, but that is after I try my best). Take
pride in the fact that you are amongst the privileged few in this
country to use things like computers and emails to communicate and so
have to show you actually do what it takes to use them.
4. Your writing is a part of your personality. You wouldn't like to
attend a party wearing an awful dress, dirty and dishevelled. So why
should you write badly and show that you are after all not someone who
people like to meet in person? You indeed raise your stakes
(expectations) higher if you write well. So put in that effort. If you
think you can't, learn.

Subramani


-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prateek
aggarwal
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 10:14 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request

Agreed.
I too have observed a few mails with major errors in spellings.
While we are using screen readers, we don't usually read the word
letter by letter, hence our focus does not go to the spelling of a
word.

Yes, I fully understand that many of you folks haven't got chance of
doing studies in English medium schools, and that's not at all a
problem, neither that is any criteria of judging your capabilities. In
fact, a lot of you folks are scholars and experts in your respective
areas, and I'm proud for that.
Sometimes, incorrect spellings or grammar makes your e-mail
ineffective to an extent that the intended recipient does not notice
it that warmly, hence you remain destitute from the right answer which
you would have got if the spellings were all correct.
Moreover, the fact described by vasu bro about the appearance  of
search results by  search queries  is also one of the major factors.
Considering this, I request all the learned fellows without any
preference of name that please try checking the spelling of the word
you are writing here, it only takes a bit.
In fact, a better approach is to write the e-mail in Microsoft word
first, and run the spelling and grammar check.
Of course, the spelling and grammar check is not the best solution and
it won't point all the mistakes,  neither the suggested things by it
are all perfect, yet you can get an idea and decide what to correct.
An other important thing that I'd like to suggest is to read whatever
you have written with the help of your screen reader.
Many times, your screen reader will pronounce a word in strange way if
its spelling is not correct.
This will let you know that there's some problem with the spelling of
that respective word, which you can correct then.

I have been thinking to write spellings of some of the most commonly
used words so the chances of collision can be reduced down.

Based on your suggestions, I may start a series somewhere either here
or on my website about the spellings of some very commonly used words.

Response awaited.

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---------- Original message ----------
From: "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" <sriniv...@srinivasu.org>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:12:54 +0530
Subject: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request
Dear all,

Off late, there are several emails with lot of spelling and grammar
mistakes. I do understand some of you may not got opportunity to study
in
English medium school and I'm one of them and that would be one of the
possible reasons for spelling mistakes in emails and I don't mistake
any
of
you.

At the same time, please understand that postings of Access India are
archived and easily available for people to come across the content
through
search engines and useful information posted by you would not come up
in
the
search engines unless your content matches to the spelling that a
researcher
is looking for. So it would be a biggest disadvantage for us, if our
content
do not have correct spellings and grammar.

To make your postings better, may I please suggest a couple of things,
although I am aware, this would be a little more additional effort:

1.       If you are using Microsoft Outlook / outlook express, be sure
to do
a spell check by pressing F7 (not sure for outlook express)

2.       If you compose emails using webmail and use Mozilla Firefox,
most
often it notify you about spelling errors and by using the
applications
key,
you can access the suggestions and use the correct spelling.

3.       This suggestion would really be an additional effort, but you
can
try; if you are using webmail, may be, draft your email using Word
Processor
and run the spell check, then copy the same and paste to your compose
box in
web mail.

Hope this would be of help to someone. No offense please.

Best regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Hand phone: +91-990-081-0881
Website:
http://www.srinivasu.org
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ifriends, i do not believe that somebody's schooling in english medium
or regional medium matters concerning his/her spelling errors. with
regarding a visually impared person, as he/she reads by
ear(listening), and not by eyes, ; the direct registering of the word
will not happen. so it is very common to get confused in between 'ie',
'ei', 'ee', 's' and 'c' etc. so only a constant, deliberate attempt to
clear the doubt and get the correct spelling make situation better.
regards reem.

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friends, i believe Braille is one among the solutions, but i doubt,
how much materials are available(at least reachable) for us in
Braille. regarding the accademic materials, i feel, the availability
in Braille, i should say is hopeless. so an ordinary visually impared
person ends up in either listening to others, or to the screne
readers. There are many visually impared people who are not trained in
Braille due to several reasons. My experience says, while we go for
continuous reading using the screne reader, if we feel like any doubt
regarding the spelling, just take effort to clarify it. i think,
rather than english medium, and regional medium; how much effort a
person takes matter.
regards Reem.

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