dear Jayachandran If possible write all messages in one mail it will reduce traffic
Amit -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jayachandran1977 Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 07:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India Dear list members, Please dont conclude anything about this. Because I have not received this card till now. And I have not used this also. After receiving and using this let me write to you in detail. Because I may be wrong. Jayachandran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kiran Kaja" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India > Before I go further with this thread, let me clarify that I have obviously > no information as to why or how SBI require a blind user to opt for a > different sort of an ATM card for using speech features. Further, it is > also > unhealthy to jump to any conclusions with the scant information we have > here. So, let us look at this objectively. > > 1. Logically, this ATM card should not be any different from any other ATM > card. It won't be a separate card that only works with certain ATM > machines > providing a limited set of services. > > 2. the only difference is that this card will have extra embedded > information that tells an ATM that this user may require speech. If that > ATM > has a speech feature, it will be enabled automatically. If there is no > speech capabilities in an ATM, it will just offer the standard interface. > > 3. you will have to use headphones for speech features anyway. It would be > foolish to have your bank balance read out by a loud speaker. > > > 4. the problem with having a switch to enable and disable speech is that > regular sighted users who may not know about speech features and may > complain that they are unable to use certain features or their interaction > is different for whatever reason. > > 5. If SBI are indeed restricting the functionality of these specialised > ATM > cards like not enabling them to be used in other machines in a normal way, > it is the most idiotic solution and needs to be resolved. > > So, lets channel our energies in obtaining the right information before we > start ranting about how differently we are being treated and all that. I > don't think there is any harm in SBI requiring users to obtain a slightly > modified card for using accessible ATMs as long as the basic functionality > of the card is still available. > > Regards, > Kiran > Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12 > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Sathiyaprakash > Ramdoss > Sent: 07 July 2010 20:11 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India > > I am still having troubles in understanding, why do we need to have > an uniquely designed card to enable speech in ATM machines? > You can have a small piece of switch to turn on the speakers. If you > are really interested in protecting privacy, you can just give them an > earphone jack, right? > Earphone jacks would also help individuals with other reading > challenges and senior citizens as well, right? > > On 7/7/10, Kiran Kaja <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Kanchan, >> >> It is a shame to say that there is currently no effort in the UK to > advocate >> for talking ATMs. I am trying to do some background research and > eventually >> prepare a business case for my employer to start some efforts in this > area. >> UK is far ahead in a lot of respects, there is even legislation to make >> internet banking sites accessible. But sadly, nothing is being done for >> ATMs. >> >> As part of my research, I am gathering information on how access to ATMs > was >> improved in North America (the developed country perspective) and other >> countries such as India where this effort has just started recently. >> >> I am also very interested in the case before the CCD. May be that is an >> approach that we could follow at some stage in the UK if at all I can get >> some people interested in the topic. >> >> Regards, >> Kiran >> >> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kanchan > Pamnani >> Sent: 07 July 2010 19:30 >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: Sam Taraporevala >> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India >> >> There is a RBI circular. Will send it tomorrow. SBI has started rolling > out >> ATMs. We had tested these machines in Mumbai last year. I am forwarding > your >> >> mails to Dr. Sam at XRCVC who has been in touch with the SBI. >> >> It started with a case before the Commissioner of Disabilities in 2005. > then >> >> the RBI circular of 2008 and then the other circular of RBI to banks > asking >> >> them to have 1/3rd talking ATMS. Then last year the testing and reports. > Now >> >> the roll out has started. >> They were supposed to be full fledged ATMS which additionally had audio >> output. >> Now when I read these reports of special cards etc. I am quite surprised. >> >> Please let me know what is your exact interest in this matter and I can >> explain better. >> Kanchan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kiran Kaja" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:02 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India >> >> >>> Hi Jayachandran, >>> >>> Thanks for replying. Would you be able to find out any details of >>> installations apart from Chennai? I wonder if SBI have a roadmap for >>> talking >>> ATM installations? >>> >>> Further, I heard that RBI passed some sort of a directive requiring 30% > or >>> so of all banking ATMs to be made accessible? Is there a copy of this? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Kiran >>> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> Jayachandran1977 >>> Sent: 07 July 2010 01:46 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India >>> >>> Hello Kiran, >>> >>> This is Jayachandran from Chennai. >>> >>> Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai. For that > we >>> have to apply for a special ATM Card. I have applied for the same. >>> Probably within a week I will be receiving that card. One of my >>> visually >>> impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash. As per his >>> statement it is very user friendly. >>> >>> Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot >>> cash, >>> >>> cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc., If you need more information >>> please >>> write. >>> >>> For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical >>> cadre. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jayachandran. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Kiran Kaja" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM >>> Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India >>> >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in >>>> India? >>> >>>> I >>>> am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are >>>> greatly >>>> appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that >>>> they >>>> will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't > suppose >>>> any of them have been installed yet? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Kiran >>>> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with >>>> disability bill at: >>>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> >>>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> >>> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with >>> disability bill at: >>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >>> with >>> the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with >>> disability bill at: >>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> >> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with >> disability bill at: >> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] > with >> the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please >> visit the list home page at >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with >> disability bill at: >> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] > with >> the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please >> visit the list home page at >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with > disability bill at: > http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm > > To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] > with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with > disability bill at: > http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm > > To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] with the subject unsubscribe. 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