In addition to Steve Hawkins, are we also taking Helen Keller not in to consideration?
On 9/27/10, Asudani, Rajesh <[email protected]> wrote: > Stefen Hawkins better pass his days confined in his home, no? > Why waste time for a cripple and a dumb? > > Remember, mahesh is not asking for any special guide.\ > Only his team members have to escort him a bit. > Stringent laws are the need of the hour. > no education or counseling does any good. > Coercion is many a times sole basis for morality. > That's why whole gamut of godliy heaven and hell and that's why whole > gammut of rule of law. > As my psychology teacher remarked once in exasperation at my repeated query > about potential of cognitive behavioural approach in changing response to > disability: > "Mr. Asudani, chastize them with direct verbal onslaught, and the whole > attitude would change". > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of namdeo2000 > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:43 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior > > According to you, helping somebody is a waste of time? Suppose there is a > poor man who has a very good ability of doing business. To start with, he > needs only RS 100 which he doesn't have. Now as far as you or people like > you, will not concede him that amount because your logic is, why should you > waste your hard-earned money on him. > This gentleman from Pune, only needs somebody to guide him to move around.In > the conference he can exhibit his technical expertise thereby making the > name of his company. > But he can not do this, as long as there are people like his boss and > people like you, who think that if he is not independent in moving about, > his being a expert technician is useless. Mahesh is only blind but, suppose, > there is some scientist of a very high stature, but he has lost his both > legs. As per your view, he must never be allowed to attend any seminars or > conferences because he would need somebody to push his wheelchair around. > Why should you waste your precious time for him? --- Original Message ----- > From: "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; "Geetha Shamanna" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 7:35 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior > > >> Why is not a problem, if someone do not have mobility skills? Yes, >> saying is easy that someone can holh his hand, why should someone has >> to invest time to hold him all the time? While we talk about equal >> opportunities, when there is possibility, why not we should have >> skills of independence? >> >> On 9/26/10, namdeo2000 <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I don't understand what you are talking. If he is not good at his >>> mobility >>> so what? Only because somebody will have to hold his hand and guide him, >>> he >>> should be deprived of this opportunity? Being not able to move about >>> independently and to be an expert technocrat have no connection >>> whatsoever. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Geetha Shamanna" gee...@millernorbert. >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:35 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior >>> >>> >>>> Hi Mahesh, >>>> >>>> Please do not get me wrong for asking you these questions, but how >>>> independent are you? Do you travel to work and move around within the >>>> office >>>> on your own? Do you use a white cane? Do you travel independently >>>> outside >>>> Pune on your own, be it for official or private purposes? >>>> >>>> The impression colleagues at work have of us blind people is to a large >>>> extent dependent on the way we conduct ourselves. If a blind person >>>> requires >>>> assistance to move around within the office or to commute to work, >>>> colleagues will always assume that blind people are dependent. It is not >>>> their fault entirely; that blind person in their office might be the >>>> only >>>> blind person they have come across in their whole existence. >>>> >>>> Instead of going to the press and publicising this issue, what is >>>> probably >>>> required here is for you to have a long and candid talk with your >>>> superior >>>> and try and convince him that you are capable of looking after yourself >>>> during the US trip, and that you will not be excessively dependent on >>>> the >>>> colleagues traveling with you. You can also ask him to specifically list >>>> out >>>> his reservations; you can then address them individually. If you have >>>> traveled alone previously, tell him how you did so and how independently >>>> you >>>> dealt with the situation. It won't be easy, but each of us will have to >>>> fight this battle on our own. >>>> >>>> Finally, if he is not sufficiently convinced and does not agree to send >>>> you >>>> to the conference, do not give up. Whenever opportunities to travel to >>>> local >>>> conferences or other events within Pune or other parts of India arise, >>>> be >>>> the first one to apply. He may not be averse to sending you to local >>>> events; >>>> so make full use of it and try to be as independent as possible during >>>> these >>>> events. You will then notice how your superior's impression of you >>>> changes. >>>> >>>> Geetha >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Mahesh Shah" <[email protected]> >>>> To: "accessindia" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 5:45 AM >>>> Subject: [AI] behaviour of my superior >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Friends-- >>>> >>>> I am writing to this list after a long time. I wish to tell you an >>>> incident happened in my office , which shocked me. >>>> >>>> Every year, a delegation goes from my office, C-DAC, to participate in >>>> SuperComputing conference in USA. This year I put my self-nomination >>>> for this. I am the most qualified and most senior person for the job. >>>> >>>> But my boss called me for a one-to-one discussion and informed me that >>>> it will be 'embarrasing' to send a person (VI) like me in . the >>>> delegation. Because I will require someone's support and will hold >>>> someone's hand. Also if some accident happens to me because of my >>>> disability, he and office will be hold responsible for why they sent >>>> such a person. >>>> >>>> I was really shocked and upset with the behaviour. Then I withdrew my >>>> nomination for participation in the conference. >>>> >>>> Friends, I want to show you that how these learned so-called superiors >>>> fail to understand the VI peoples aspirations and behave in such a >>>> nonsense way. >>>> >>>> Thanks for sharing my concerns. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mahesh Shah >>>> Pune >>>> >>>> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with >>>> disability bill at: >>>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >>>> with >>>> the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please >>>> visit the list home page at >>>> >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with >>>> disability bill at: >>>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>> >>> >>> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with >>> disability bill at: >>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >>> with >>> the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> Best regards, >> >> Srinivasu Chakravarthula >> Mobile: +91 990 081 0881 >> Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org >> Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/VasuTweets >> >> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with >> disability bill at: >> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with > disability bill at: > http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm > > To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. 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