One more thing sir, as you have downloaded service pack 3, please let me know if the problem resolve afterwards. can u tell me from where u downloaded this service pack 3?
On 11/23/11, Salman Raafay <salmanraa...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Umesha sir as per our conversation I check the version of my > windows its service pack 2. what happened in afternoon, I thought to > restore my system to an erlier date, first of all I restored it to > 20th of November, but even restoring it, the problem was still there, > but again I restored the windows to 15th of november, my system took > restart, since then till now it is working properly. I am unable to > understand that whats the problem, I think its not the permanent > solution, we will have to do something to tackle this issue. I have > registered the complaint to technical team hope they will visit me, > but what they can do if they are having such profile. If the issue > will not be resolved I am thinking to go to consumer court as one of > my friend is an advocate. I am raising this point here because of the > fact on the basis of suggestion made by technical team, they told me > that with windows 7 it work fine, I argued with them since the machine > came with free dos, it is apparent that machine should be compatible > with any os and it should run with all versions of windows. Lets see > what happens. > > On 11/23/11, Srikanth Kanuri <srili...@gmail.com> wrote: >> hi, check this. might be of some use: >> >> http://drivers.downloadatoz.com/tutorial/22581,windows-xp-sp2-audio-problem-fix-it-for-lenove-g460-laptop.html >> >> On 11/22/11, Umesha S E <umesha....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Good evening friends, >>> Due to my ill health and heavy load in the work place, I was not able >>> to reply to this thread. My problem is not yet solved. In fact I was >>> not been able to try some of the possible solutions suggested. But any >>> way, thanks to all of you. But friends, please provide your phone >>> numbers so that we can contact and interact directly. Because I am >>> running out of my time and not been able to reply to the suggestions >>> and seek clarifications. My mobile number is 9480662242 and any one >>> can ring me at any time regarding the issue except from 8 AM to 1 PM >>> (class hours). I am not against windows 7 but I do not have needed >>> time for migrating to it. I also want to tell you one thing, the >>> lenovo technical team has closed my case and sent me a message to >>> inform the same without solving the problem. What a worst kind of >>> service! >>> >>> To shona man, >>> I want to tell you one thing, that engineer was a junior and a trainee >>> and myself I explained many things to him. Yes I have given up the >>> idea of upgrading bios. But tell me one thing, bios is a firmware >>> update. Can we uninstall that with system restore which seems to be >>> software maintenance tool? >>> >>> To prateek aggarwal, >>> You need not apologize for the lengthy mail because it was informative >>> and such things are necessary to give clear ideas in order to solve >>> these difficult problems. Thank you for the info that I am not the >>> only person facing it. But let it help me in getting the right >>> solution. >>> I downloaded the proper drivers from lenovo site itself. The drivers >>> are said to be compatible with XP. Moreover, I also downloaded the >>> latest driver from realtek site which is updated only one month ago. I >>> am currently running win XP SP2. Now I have to check with SP3 which is >>> the latest service pack for XP. Should I install any other patch in >>> addition to SP3? >>> Yes it may be the result of a wrong soundcard circuitries since I have >>> onboard soundcard. But I think its expensive to buy an extra sound >>> card only to test this issue. >>> RAM: I have 4GB of RAM which is a single chip. So no way can I remove >>> one chip in order to test. Also, being a visually impaired its >>> difficult for me to open the case and do all those checkups. >>> Audio latency: I have downloaded DPC Latency Checker and I have to >>> test my machine with it. Due to problems I mentioned earlier, I am not >>> been able to do all those things in time. But I have one doubt about >>> it, if I disable my sound device, its more likely to show no latency. >>> But then what would be the solution since I cannot work without sound >>> device? Any way, it’s a good programme and I use it and get the >>> results. >>> BIOS: many people guard me against installing BIOS update. I am also >>> skeptic about it because we cannot uninstall BIOS update once >>> installed. >>> Virus: no way it’s the virus effect. Because it’s a new machine and >>> blank hard disk. It has nothing except OS, drivers, jaws and few audio >>> files to check audio output. I have not even formatted drives other >>> than system drive. >>> Win 7: >>> I am not against win7. But I need time learn and adjust to interface >>> and also to change the versions of my applications to suit with new OS >>> which I do not have now. Even I have many jaws settings files and >>> scripts. >>> >>> To Jaison Bellarmine, >>> Which operating system are you running? >>> >>> To Kiran Baug, >>> Was it the same procedure you followed to solve your problem? Why >>> should I re-format my system for installing SP3? Won’t it available in >>> Indian site? Can’t we download and install the same manually? Which is >>> your model?? I have downloaded SP3 and now I’ll test it. >>> To Srikanth Kanuri, >>> Thanks, I’ll also try your suggestion. >>> >>> Friends, I will soon test all these solutions and get back. Any other >>> suggestions from any fellow member is welcomed. >>> >>> Umesha >>> >>> On 11/22/11, Jaison Bellarmine <jaisonay...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hai friend, umax 4100 has xp drivers, but has no window7 7 driver. Iam >>>> using >>>> samsung netbook with win 7. For using umax 4100, I installed xp but >>>> could >>>> not find audio driver for xp. Now Using USB headset I can use umax. >>>> That's >>>> all. >>>> With regards >>>> Jaison Bellarmine-----Original message----- >>>> From: Ashik >>>> Sent: 2011:11:22, 12:37 pm >>>> To: jaisonay...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] audio device not working >>>> >>>> >>>> I could not understand your comment about Umex 4100. How can I use it >>>> in >>>> XP? >>>> Show me the way if there is one. >>>> - - - >>>> Ashik Hirani >>>> Landline phone: 02849-242233 >>>> Skype: ashikali.hirani >>>> I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my necklace. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Jaison Bellarmine" <jaisonay...@gmail.com> >>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 8:52 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] audio device not working >>>> >>>> >>>>> Actually there is no need to stick with xp. Once you gets familiar >>>>> with >>>>> window7 you will surely love it. In essential situations as i face >>>>> with >>>>> umax 4100, you can use xp with a USB head phöe. Remember, there is >>>>> nothing >>>>> >>>>> that doesn't changes but change itself. >>>>> With regards >>>>> Jaison Bellarmine-----Original message----- >>>>> From: Srikanth Kanuri >>>>> Sent: 2011:11:21, 4:53 pm >>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] audio device not working >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Finally try this. >>>>> >>>>> If you are on XP go to devise manager. >>>>> >>>>> right click on Microsoft UAA driver >>>>> >>>>> Disable it and uninstall it. >>>>> >>>>> recommending it because few Real tech HD drivers are incompatible with >>>>> UAA driver which installs by default. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 11/21/11, Shona Man <shonam...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Thats why I was asking you not to install bios update driver. Its >>>>>> only >>>>>> because of bios update driver, one thing I will tell u either to >>>>>> restore the windows to erlier time when this bios driver was not >>>>>> installed. >>>>>> Now I remember I also did the same thing few days before when I >>>>>> perchased my lenovo laptop, I also installed bios update my system >>>>>> also made some brrr sound and it got automatically restarted, >>>>>> thereafter my windows didn't take start. ultimately what I had to do >>>>>> I >>>>>> had to restored the windows. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/21/11, Kiran Baug <kiranbaug2...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When i purchased lenovo laptop i was also having this issue but i >>>>>>> solved >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mostly it is not recommended to update the driver of bios >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I want you to do the following steps >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Reformat and re install your windows xp and install windows xp >>>>>>> sp3 >>>>>>> pack professional edition >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Go to Lenovo support home US site and click the link auto detect >>>>>>> link >>>>>>> which will automatically download and install all the required >>>>>>> softwares and drivers according to your model configuration >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It will also install the all required patches for running the audio >>>>>>> because its there in lenovo site >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dont worry thats the best laptop you have purchased >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When i have purchased the laptop i also first shifted to windows xp >>>>>>> but now from last 1 month i have shifted to windows 7 and the >>>>>>> performance of my laptop is excellent with the help of the Jaws or >>>>>>> NVDA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope you will not face any problem >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Kiran Baug >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/20/11, Jaison Bellarmine <jaisonay...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hai I have no audio and video driver for my xp in my samsung N148 >>>>>>>> Plus >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> i >>>>>>>> managed the problem with a logitech USB head phone and NVDA!!! Now >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>> my umax 4100 scanner also for which no win 7 driver is available. >>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>> Jaison Bellarmine-----Original message----- >>>>>>>> From: prateek aggarwal >>>>>>>> Sent: 2011:11:20, 1:43 pm >>>>>>>> To: accessindia >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] audio device not working >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello umesha and others, >>>>>>>> The issue that you’re facing has been reported to me by some other >>>>>>>> folks >>>>>>>> too. >>>>>>>> Interestingly, many folks who have bought the notebooks in recent >>>>>>>> times seemed to have experienced this problem. >>>>>>>> I’d like to confess that this issue has sounded pretty bizarre to >>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>> when I’ve heard it the first time, but with the frequent such >>>>>>>> occurrences i can tell you that you’re not the only ones facing >>>>>>>> this, >>>>>>>> so chill the head out! <grin>! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The said issue can arise due to many reasons, including the faulty >>>>>>>> hardware, driver compatibility, lose slots, RAM slipup, audio >>>>>>>> latency, operating system compatibility, etc. >>>>>>>> With so many such diversities, Pointing one straight rectification >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> just not possible, unfortunately. >>>>>>>> Keeping that in mind, I’d like to list down some of the most >>>>>>>> preferred >>>>>>>> solutions below, which can be tried in order to resolve the said >>>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Driver compatibility: >>>>>>>> In many cases, these kinds of problems occurs when there’s a >>>>>>>> compatibility problem with your driver and operating system. >>>>>>>> Please >>>>>>>> ensure that the drivers you are installing on windows xp have “xp” >>>>>>>> listed in their recommended system software’s list. >>>>>>>> Also, try checking the minimum requirements of your drivers. >>>>>>>> Sometimes, the service packs might not be compatible enough, and >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> cause the sound freezing or distortedt. >>>>>>>> You can try updating your windows to the latest service packs and >>>>>>>> patches which should solve the issue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sound card: >>>>>>>> Most of the modern motherboards now comes with in-built sound >>>>>>>> cards, >>>>>>>> which are wonderful, but not in all the situations. >>>>>>>> It has been observed that some sound cards are not properly fixed >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> the circuitries and therefore they tent to make issues. >>>>>>>> The best way to determine if it’s the problem with the sound card >>>>>>>> hardware, please try testing your sound with an external soundcard, >>>>>>>> preferably the USB sound card, which is easy to install and use >>>>>>>> without making any undesired change. >>>>>>>> When you have the additional soundcard installed on your system, >>>>>>>> don’t >>>>>>>> forget to change the default sound device to the new card failing >>>>>>>> which you would not be able to test it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ram: >>>>>>>> Simple as it may sound, many folks have recently reported me that >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> similar issue has been occurring to them due to the ram not >>>>>>>> properly fixed. >>>>>>>> Especially while using more than 2 gbs of ram, please make sure >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> all your slots are properly constricted and the ram is fixed >>>>>>>> tighten >>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>> Also, try removing one of your 1 GB rams and then work with your >>>>>>>> system for a while for testing if it makes any better effect. I’ve >>>>>>>> been told that packing all the ram slots on some motherboard blocks >>>>>>>> the internal air to pass, and starts producing system slowdown >>>>>>>> therefore. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Audio latency: >>>>>>>> Some sound devices have the problem of audio latency, which make >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> delay or distortion happen. >>>>>>>> To check if any of your devices has the problem of audio latency, >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> can use any one of the software applications made for this task. >>>>>>>> I prefer installing DPC Latency Checker, which is a small, free >>>>>>>> application that allows you to analyze the amount of latency in >>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> system. >>>>>>>> Please search for “DPC Latency Checker” on google in order to >>>>>>>> download >>>>>>>> this, as I do not seem to remember the website at the moment. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bios update: >>>>>>>> You’ve already said, bios update can bring some positive results, >>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>> going with that is not a bad idea. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Virus: >>>>>>>> In many cases, simply the viruses, spiwares, malwares etc cause >>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> system to stuck. Though you’ve already said that you’ve tried doing >>>>>>>> clean install of the operating system several times, but some >>>>>>>> viruses >>>>>>>> might be citting inside of your hard disk in drives other than the >>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>> you have your operating system, and causing the problem. >>>>>>>> Presuming that you might have already tried scanning your system >>>>>>>> against viruses with a good antivirus software, try to do a clean >>>>>>>> sweep of your hard drive and then install the operating system and >>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>> if the issue still persists. >>>>>>>> Alternatively, install the operating system in a different, >>>>>>>> external >>>>>>>> hard drive and boot your system with that to test if it’s the issue >>>>>>>> with this hard drive’s content only. >>>>>>>> I’m saying this specifically because you’ve already described that >>>>>>>> some engineers have tried running the system with external hard >>>>>>>> disk >>>>>>>> and the results were pleasing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Operating system: >>>>>>>> Whatever hard that you try, sometimes the operating system that >>>>>>>> you’re >>>>>>>> using is not compatible with newer hardware devices. If you’re >>>>>>>> sure >>>>>>>> that the problems that you’re facing occurs only with windows xp >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> not with win 7 or any other operating system, upgrading the OS is >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> a bad idea either. >>>>>>>> I’d like to ensure you that windows7 is a pretty wonderful >>>>>>>> operating >>>>>>>> system and you won’t find any specific problem with this. >>>>>>>> Most of the software venders have already made their applications >>>>>>>> compatible with win7, and many are making it so fast. >>>>>>>> If you are finding the problem with xp and not with win7, I’d >>>>>>>> advice >>>>>>>> you straight to upgrade, being rigid will not serve you much >>>>>>>> fruitful >>>>>>>> stuff. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Finally, as far as my experience goes, every new thing that you >>>>>>>> try >>>>>>>> teaches you something, so rather getting frustrated, enjoy whatever >>>>>>>> option you try and It’ll surely allow you to learn something new. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My apologies for such a lengthy email. I just could not stop >>>>>>>> myself >>>>>>>> when I’ve started writing once. >>>>>>>> Hope that this will help some of you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Prateek agarwal. >>>>>>>> Managing Director, >>>>>>>> Daedal technovations pvt. Ltd. >>>>>>>> www.daedaltechnovations.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> website: >>>>>>>> www.prateekagarwal.webs.com >>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>> www.prateekagarwal.tk >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Original message ---------- >>>>>>>> From: Umesha S E <umesha....@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 10:20:31 +0530 >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] audio device not working >>>>>>>> Thanks shona man, sheik, sunil and others >>>>>>>> To shona man >>>>>>>> Before answering your questions, may I ask you one thing? >>>>>>>> May I have your phone number and preferred time of calling so that >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> can discuss directly? Because I need the solution very urgently as >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> need it for my classes and other works. >>>>>>>> I downloaded the drivers properly. The consumer support site has >>>>>>>> options for choosing model and OS. I selected my model (Z570) and >>>>>>>> windows XP. There is no option to choose between 32 bit and 64 bit >>>>>>>> versions of XP. In the next page after clicking on “continue”, I >>>>>>>> got >>>>>>>> the list of drivers and I downloaded all of them. In that list, >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> realtek audio driver is said to be for windows xp only. Its version >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> 5.10.0.6267 and it is a 106 MB file and updated on 9-3-11. The URL >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> the download page is >>>>>>>> http://consumersupport.lenovo.com/in/en/driversdownloads/APR_Driver_List.aspx?CategoryID=307140&OS=Windows%20XP >>>>>>>> Though I repeatedly tell them that I want win xp only, many people >>>>>>>> ask >>>>>>>> me to change my os to win7. >>>>>>>> I have already registered a complaint but not with the number you >>>>>>>> provided but on 180030029929. Shall I register once again with the >>>>>>>> number you provided? The engineer visited my site and checked by >>>>>>>> replacing the hard disk with one with win 7 installed on it. It ran >>>>>>>> smoothly for few minutes. He tried reinstalling the driver and it >>>>>>>> did >>>>>>>> not solve the problem. >>>>>>>> I don’t think that problem is with my OS because the same OS was >>>>>>>> running without any error on other machines with realtek audio. >>>>>>>> Now I am of the doubt whether fault is with hardware or driver. The >>>>>>>> engineer reported that its with driver after checking with win 7 >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> few minutes. Yesterday I downloaded and installed another driver >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> realtek site which is updated somewhere in October and it also had >>>>>>>> same problem. I don’t think realtek whose audio devices are sold so >>>>>>>> widely has compatibility problem with win xp. Further even in win >>>>>>>> xp, >>>>>>>> it runs smoothly for few minutes. Later it gets struck. Mostly >>>>>>>> running >>>>>>>> for longer times like 40-50 minutes will cause it to happen. When >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> occurs, all the processes get slower. Mouse pointer jumps instead >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> moving smoothly. I don’t know about running win 7 for such longer >>>>>>>> time. Some times it get corrected itself. Can these symptoms happen >>>>>>>> with driver problems? Or is it a hardware (circuit) problem? >>>>>>>> One more information I want to give: it has a nvidia graphic card >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> which I have no driver for win xp. It was showing 5 items with >>>>>>>> yellow >>>>>>>> question mark; one video device and 4 audio devices in device >>>>>>>> manager. >>>>>>>> But disabling all of them either through device manager or BIOS did >>>>>>>> not solve the problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To sheik: >>>>>>>> I tried many times to call you but I did not get you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Umesha >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/19/11, Shona Man < >>>>>>>> shonam...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi I think that you have not installed proper audio driver, can u >>>>>>>>> tell >>>>>>>>> me from where u found the audio driver program? make sure that u >>>>>>>>> selected the correct audio driver from the lenovo website in >>>>>>>>> consumer >>>>>>>>> support section. Some of the driver are for 64 bit make sure u >>>>>>>>> installed one which is compatible with Z570 and windows xp. Since >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> machine came with free dos then it is supposed to be run properly >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> each os. They cann't say that only win 7 will run properly. Ask >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> technical team to register ur complaint on 18004259003 and >>>>>>>>> engeneer >>>>>>>>> will visit the sight. >>>>>>>>> But once again I will say that make sure about the driver which u >>>>>>>>> installed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 11/19/11, Sheik mohammedali < >>>>>>>> shahid.se...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Dear umesh, due to my health problem I could not respond you >>>>>>>>>> properly. >>>>>>>>>> Since i'm away from my computer, I could not fulfill your need. >>>>>>>>>> Another >>>>>>>>>> onething is that, Bios upgradation has nothing to do with this >>>>>>>>>> issue >>>>>>>>>> since >>>>>>>>>> bios deals with the circuit/system devices. 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