Yes Sir, you are right! Here also mentally challenged children are accepted as dependent of employees. But the conflict starts with the inclusion of "physically challenged" siblings in the dependent category. This is introduced in last settlement only and according to the management, mine is the first case claiming "mentally challenged" sibling's entitlement.
And, my DGM is very cooperative. But circumstances turned into a clash between me and bank management, which is actually not. We all comprehend that this is a folly of parties entered into settlement; nothing is to blame on individual bank. So, he was somehow correct while suggesting me for not going for legal remedial action against bank. But, this doesn’t prevent me from filing RTI and if required then move to CCPD against IBA. On 1/26/12, bhawani shankar verma <[email protected]> wrote: > you are right at your part , but, here in our hrms system, there is a > specific link for mentally retarded child. the employees having MR child, > can not be posted at far off places. if your dgm says not to go for legal > remedy, then ask him what should i do now? why i should wait till the next > settlement? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Himanshu Sahu" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:30 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] clarification regarding lfc encashment. > > > Dear Sir, > This is for the reference that, Chapter 18, A, of the document of last > bipartite settlement mentions that the non-earning “Physically > Challenged” brother/sister of bank employee are entitled for the > facility. > > The bank management here interprets that the term “physically > challenged” is exclusive and differs to my opinion that “physically > challenged” written in the document is the misnomer of “persons with > disability”. > After a long persuasion to the union and bank management, I got a > reply that whatever is written will be continued till the next > settlement and in next settlement, the issue will be raised and > hopefully needful will be achieved. > Here, I find myself in an extremely peculiar situation. On the one > hand my intuition suggests that I should pursue the matter further. On > the other hand, during this whole episode I realized that moving ahead > with the issue, witch is obviously rightful, may invite the wrath of > the management. However, I talked with the AGM HR HO, my DGM, FGM and > union head several times and all of them are having same opinion that > Mentally Challenged is more vulnerable and should have been included > in the beneficiary category. But this is only a verbal expression not > a commitment to make any effort for the interference in the matter as > it comes under the exclusive purview of IBA. > > The problem here is that I am the secretary of DGM (earlier to the FGM > also) of a zone having close proximity and excessive interaction to > the HO and my DGM himself has served as the Executive Assistant of the > Chairman for more than 4 years. So, any of my moves is closely > scrutinized and I have been already suggested by DGM not to involve in > any legal or conflicting issue. > > Nevertheless, I am set to file a RTI application to IBA seeking > clarification about its interpretation of the term “Physically > Challenged”. > If it confirms that PC means only PC and there is no misnomer of the > term “person with disability” than the next action will be to > challenge it in CCPD or other legal forum. And if it accepts that the > term PC means all 7 categories mentioned in PWD Act than probably, the > conflict should be resolved at once. > > I would request all the learned members to kindly suggest whether PWD > Act articulates anywhere that differentiation between any of the seven > categories of disability be made for offering the privileges to them. > This is also to point that inclusion of PCs in dependent’s category is > made in last bipartite settlement only. > > > On 1/26/12, bhawani shankar verma <[email protected]> wrote: >> why mentally challenged are excluded, you should go to CCPD and make UFBU >> and IBA party for this wrong settlement. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Himanshu Sahu" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] clarification regarding lfc encashment. >> >> >>> Hello, >>> As it is clear that all nationalised banks are directed by the >>> guidelines of bipartite settlement, nun of individual bank has >>> authority to overrule it. >>> Recently I too have encashed my LFC without any problem. >>> As far as the arbitrary decission of your circle management is >>> concerned, I would like to tell you my recent experience in my bank >>> (Allahabad Bank) where my younger brother (mentally challanged) was >>> denied from getting the benefits of dependentss of an employee >>> refering the point that "physically Challanged" siblings are only >>> entitled for such facility as mentioned in last bipartite settlement, >>> hence, "Mentally Challanged" are excluded. >>> >>> Now, even a person having an average common understanding can well >>> deduce that MCs are more vulnerable and needy than PCs. The same was >>> the opinion of all management and union people. But ultimately, nun of >>> them could show the courage to add my brother in my dependent's list >>> and offered a hope that may be in next settlement the issue will be >>> raised and the demand will be fulfilled. >>> >>> In your case also, the same logic works but rather positively. As it >>> is not written anywhere in the settlement document that a blind >>> employee will be entitled for a reduced fair and encashment, hence, >>> the common connotation is that it should be equal for every category >>> unless they make any amendment in bipartite document. >>> >>> On 1/24/12, selvi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> On 1/24/2012 06:45 PM, bhawani shankar verma wrote: >>>>> you are right sir, exactly what i wan't to say. >>>>> thirdly, it is my choice after encashment whether i make journey or >>>>> not. forth, it is also my choice that on which class i prefer to >>>>> travel. and last it is also my choice, not to travel just take >>>>> encashment. only one day leave is required to take encashment. in case >>>>> of officer, this one day leave is not necessary. i am unable to >>>>> understand, why the chennai circle management did this. my circle >>>>> authorities can not dare to make such dicision. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Asudani, Rajesh" >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:06 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] clarification regarding lfc encashment. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> It may be upto individual bank management. >>>>>> However, I think they cannot curtail encashment merely because the >>>>>> blind get concession in railfare. >>>>>> Firstly, nobody can compel me to take the concession. >>>>>> Secondly, it in no way diminishes my entitlement to full fare. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kotian, H >>>>>> P >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:23 AM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] clarification regarding lfc encashment. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, at RBI I had made representation permitting me to a) travel >>>>>> additional distance, B. Travel in a higher class and C. Take an >>>>>> escort upto the extent of myeligibility. All the three were >>>>>> considered and it is now encorporated in the Master circular on LFC. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, it is entirely to the wisdom of each management to take >>>>>> their stand on the matter. >>>>>> >>>>>> Harish Kotian >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: selvi [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> Sent: 23 January 2012 22:00 >>>>>> To: "" >>>>>> Subject: [AI] clarification regarding lfc encashment. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hai all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I seek clarification mainly from bank employees regarding LFC >>>>>> encashment >>>>>> for workmen staff. >>>>>> >>>>>> Recently, Punjab National Bank, Chennai Circle has decided to give one >>>>>> fourth of LFC encashment amount for visually challenged persons for >>>>>> the >>>>>> reason that we are having concession in the train fare. >>>>>> >>>>>> On taking up with the union, I am informed that the issue has been >>>>>> placed before Central IRM FOR THEIR DECISION.More than three months >>>>>> have >>>>>> lapsed, but the issue is yet to be resolved. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to know If the same thing is happening in any other bank >>>>>> and specially from other zones of Punjab National Bank.Reply awaited. >>>>>> With regards, Selvi R. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential >>>>>> and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom >>>>>> they are addressed. 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If we visit >>>> some place by the mode of train, the question of concession arise. But >>>> in case of encashment, I think, we are eligible to receive 75 per cent >>>> of LFC amount at par to other staff members. I have not been replied >>>> byChennai Circle seeking reason for reduction of LFC amount. 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