Ok go ahead.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Himanshu Sahu" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] clarification regarding lfc encashment.
Yes Sir, you are right!
Here also mentally challenged children are accepted as dependent of
employees.
But the conflict starts with the inclusion of "physically challenged"
siblings in the dependent category. This is introduced in last
settlement only and according to the management, mine is the first
case claiming "mentally challenged" sibling's entitlement.
And, my DGM is very cooperative. But circumstances turned into a clash
between me and bank management, which is actually not. We all
comprehend that this is a folly of parties entered into settlement;
nothing is to blame on individual bank.
So, he was somehow correct while suggesting me for not going for legal
remedial action against bank.
But, this doesn’t prevent me from filing RTI and if required then move
to CCPD against IBA.
On 1/26/12, bhawani shankar verma <[email protected]> wrote:
you are right at your part , but, here in our hrms system, there is a
specific link for mentally retarded child. the employees having MR child,
can not be posted at far off places. if your dgm says not to go for legal
remedy, then ask him what should i do now? why i should wait till the next
settlement?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Himanshu Sahu" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] clarification regarding lfc encashment.
Dear Sir,
This is for the reference that, Chapter 18, A, of the document of last
bipartite settlement mentions that the non-earning “Physically
Challenged” brother/sister of bank employee are entitled for the
facility.
The bank management here interprets that the term “physically
challenged” is exclusive and differs to my opinion that “physically
challenged” written in the document is the misnomer of “persons with
disability”.
After a long persuasion to the union and bank management, I got a
reply that whatever is written will be continued till the next
settlement and in next settlement, the issue will be raised and
hopefully needful will be achieved.
Here, I find myself in an extremely peculiar situation. On the one
hand my intuition suggests that I should pursue the matter further. On
the other hand, during this whole episode I realized that moving ahead
with the issue, witch is obviously rightful, may invite the wrath of
the management. However, I talked with the AGM HR HO, my DGM, FGM and
union head several times and all of them are having same opinion that
Mentally Challenged is more vulnerable and should have been included
in the beneficiary category. But this is only a verbal expression not
a commitment to make any effort for the interference in the matter as
it comes under the exclusive purview of IBA.
The problem here is that I am the secretary of DGM (earlier to the FGM
also) of a zone having close proximity and excessive interaction to
the HO and my DGM himself has served as the Executive Assistant of the
Chairman for more than 4 years. So, any of my moves is closely
scrutinized and I have been already suggested by DGM not to involve in
any legal or conflicting issue.
Nevertheless, I am set to file a RTI application to IBA seeking
clarification about its interpretation of the term “Physically
Challenged”.
If it confirms that PC means only PC and there is no misnomer of the
term “person with disability” than the next action will be to
challenge it in CCPD or other legal forum. And if it accepts that the
term PC means all 7 categories mentioned in PWD Act than probably, the
conflict should be resolved at once.
I would request all the learned members to kindly suggest whether PWD
Act articulates anywhere that differentiation between any of the seven
categories of disability be made for offering the privileges to them.
This is also to point that inclusion of PCs in dependent’s category is
made in last bipartite settlement only.
On 1/26/12, bhawani shankar verma <[email protected]> wrote:
why mentally challenged are excluded, you should go to CCPD and make UFBU
and IBA party for this wrong settlement.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Himanshu Sahu" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] clarification regarding lfc encashment.
Hello,
As it is clear that all nationalised banks are directed by the
guidelines of bipartite settlement, nun of individual bank has
authority to overrule it.
Recently I too have encashed my LFC without any problem.
As far as the arbitrary decission of your circle management is
concerned, I would like to tell you my recent experience in my bank
(Allahabad Bank) where my younger brother (mentally challanged) was
denied from getting the benefits of dependentss of an employee
refering the point that "physically Challanged" siblings are only
entitled for such facility as mentioned in last bipartite settlement,
hence, "Mentally Challanged" are excluded.
Now, even a person having an average common understanding can well
deduce that MCs are more vulnerable and needy than PCs. The same was
the opinion of all management and union people. But ultimately, nun of
them could show the courage to add my brother in my dependent's list
and offered a hope that may be in next settlement the issue will be
raised and the demand will be fulfilled.
In your case also, the same logic works but rather positively. As it
is not written anywhere in the settlement document that a blind
employee will be entitled for a reduced fair and encashment, hence,
the common connotation is that it should be equal for every category
unless they make any amendment in bipartite document.
On 1/24/12, selvi <[email protected]> wrote:
On 1/24/2012 06:45 PM, bhawani shankar verma wrote:
you are right sir, exactly what i wan't to say.
thirdly, it is my choice after encashment whether i make journey or
not. forth, it is also my choice that on which class i prefer to
travel. and last it is also my choice, not to travel just take
encashment. only one day leave is required to take encashment. in case
of officer, this one day leave is not necessary. i am unable to
understand, why the chennai circle management did this. my circle
authorities can not dare to make such dicision.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Asudani, Rajesh"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] clarification regarding lfc encashment.
It may be upto individual bank management.
However, I think they cannot curtail encashment merely because the
blind get concession in railfare.
Firstly, nobody can compel me to take the concession.
Secondly, it in no way diminishes my entitlement to full fare.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kotian,
H
P
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AI] clarification regarding lfc encashment.
Hello
Well, at RBI I had made representation permitting me to a) travel
additional distance, B. Travel in a higher class and C. Take an
escort upto the extent of myeligibility. All the three were
considered and it is now encorporated in the Master circular on LFC.
However, it is entirely to the wisdom of each management to take
their stand on the matter.
Harish Kotian
-----Original Message-----
From: selvi [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 23 January 2012 22:00
To: ""
Subject: [AI] clarification regarding lfc encashment.
Hai all,
I seek clarification mainly from bank employees regarding LFC
encashment
for workmen staff.
Recently, Punjab National Bank, Chennai Circle has decided to give
one
fourth of LFC encashment amount for visually challenged persons for
the
reason that we are having concession in the train fare.
On taking up with the union, I am informed that the issue has been
placed before Central IRM FOR THEIR DECISION.More than three months
have
lapsed, but the issue is yet to be resolved.
I would like to know If the same thing is happening in any other bank
and specially from other zones of Punjab National Bank.Reply awaited.
With regards, Selvi R.
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The amount and the distance for LFC have been decided in Bipartrite
Settlement, which is common to all the nationalised banks. If we visit
some place by the mode of train, the question of concession arise. But
in case of encashment, I think, we are eligible to receive 75 per cent
of LFC amount at par to other staff members. I have not been replied
byChennai Circle seeking reason for reduction of LFC amount. Without
any evidence in writing I cannot take the issue to Head Office or
anywhere else.
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