Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!If your answers/arguments (strong) are
genuent, surely, thoses can be brought to the list irrespective to the
moderator's rulings. If you don't have time, why do you send such replies.
----- Original Message -----
From: Umesha Economics
To: Access India ; P. Subramani
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
I have strong answers to all of your arguments. but I don't want to answer
because of 2 reasons. 1. I have no time for arguing for unproductive things and
convincing the insensitive minds. 2. the moderator has given his ruling and it
would be inappropriate on my part if I overrule his statement. I request the
moderator to excuse me if I have violated the rules.
Umesha
----- Original Message -----
From: P. Subramani
To: Umesha Economics ; [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
these are just vague excuses. By mistake, someone posts an off-topic
matter, most if not all are up in arms against the poster. I don't agree with
the notion that subjectline doesn't indicate actual matter. If off-topic
mails can catch the attention of why not a mail routed through the moderator?
Subjectline is quitre as the matter pertains to recruitment and its rules
thereon. Also my mail is very clear and his age was mentioned as more details
would be of help. Forget all those who don't have any solutions in this regard,
what about those know such matters? Coming to the citing of moderator's
comments that all mails need not be replied to, it depends on the gravity of
the issue. Coming to discussion of useless maters, you need not remind me of
the delet button as all computer users well-versed with that necessary button
and hence I do use to ignore such mails. Its ridiculous to say I am not the
person to judge which is the otherway of deflecting from the main issue. I
shall never take back my remarks and shall standby them. Moreover, you have
failed to read my mail completely and understand as well.
----- Original Message -----
From: Umesha Economics
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
dear friends,
sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you to
modify the first line of your message properly as your messages from 11:50
am to 1:30 PM today were containing the subject lines in the message body
and making the reading difficult for the VI. coming to your comments,
there
may be various reasons for no response. first of all, there were some
problems in your mail itself. your subject line was not clear and up to
the
real problem. you wrote it as recruitment rules which does not carry any
message itself that a person is seriously affected by a current burning
problem. that's why the moderator is repeatedly telling about the subject
line. many people do not open the mails subjects of which do not interests
them. that has already been rectified. the information given is not clear.
whether disqualification is due to diabetes or blindness? you said you
found
out some thing about rules. did you find all the applicable laws which
govern the recruitment of that job? if not, you have to get it through RTI
or any other means as suggested by another member. you said the age of
person 40 years. does this has anything to do with the disqualification?
or
you put it just to emphasis his problem of not getting the job at the late
age? you have to clarify these things before seeking legal opinion.
other than the above, members may not knowing the answer even though they
want to help you. at that time, they keep quite. many a times, people will
not be having enough time to reply to the messages as they may be busy in
their own engagements. I check the mails only once or twice and reply only
if have enough time. recall the moderator's comment that everyone need not
reply to every message.
so, please take back your harsh remarks on the list and its members. they
are very offensive. responding to a message has nothing to do with
knowledge
and competence and you are not a competent person to judge them. I have
seen
no off topic message flooding the replies since my entry. the moderator is
nipping them in the bud. you said the case affects every person. but other
than off topic issues, all the matters are related to blind and any one
among them including yours can be argued to be affecting every other
blind.
this case may not also affect some of the blind persons. present case is
serious and I do not deny that. but before making negative comments on the
matters, you have to see all these aspects.
regarding useless discussions, you are not the judge for that. it may be
useless for you but useful for those who discuss them. for example, I also
feel some times members discussing so much about mobiles, android and
others
and feel useless. I do not have a talking mobile and that's why I feel so.
but I simply ignore those messages. but the same may be of use to those
having mobiles.
so, this list is not a talking shop, insensitive, useless, futile and
unworthy as you said and your message is not a scientific test of it.
Umesha
----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Subramani" <[email protected]>
To: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Dear Kakarla, Thanks for your
excellent
> suggestions/comments. I am simultaneously followingup in the channels
> suggested, surely, i may not have the right to criticize the listers,
but
> for this specific matter. I too have undergone the non-responses from
> listers on many of my posts for which I didn't react respecting the
> members' rights and all such posts were individual requirements. But
this
> present case is affecting the masses. If not for such specific cases, I
do
> not outburst. Surely you will appreciate the gravity of the matter
> especially the employment seekers point of view.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
> Hello,
> Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails. In such cases, try to
> forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
> listers. Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
> negative comments. It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
> such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
> criticising the listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
> posted. But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
> their recruitment rules? Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
> the matter to the notice of the CCPD? Why don't you consult advocacy
> cells set up by AICB, etc.? I too did not get response to my requests
> a number of times but I never complained.
>
>
> On 2/25/12, P. Subramani <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your
> contention of
> > listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few
> fine.
> > But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community
> especially
> > the employment seekers and and none seem to bother. So I am forced
to
> > question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers. This
> matter is
> > more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its
> terrible
> > that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise differently. I
> am
> > absolutely right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bharat
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
> >
> >
> > While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to
your
> > thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise
that,
> > responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own
decision.
> > & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across to
the
> > list.
> >
> > On 2/25/12, P. Subramani <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: P. Subramani
> > > To: Kotian, H P ; [email protected]
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry from
> any
> > group
> > > member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and every
> blind
> > > person. This clearly shows the incompetence of all the members
of
> this
> > > group on this very sensitive issue. You people are just rangling
> with
> > > passionate and going at each other in many useless/futile
> discussions on
> > > things like books and mobiles. Its disgracing on your (members')
> part to
> > > simply ignore this kind of matters. When off-topic matters are
> posted by
> > > chance, each and everyone flood the mailbox with futile
reactions.
> I
> > just
> > > wonder whether this group is just a talking shop for some
> non-sensical
> > > matters? Despite having so-called knowledgeables in this group,
> this
> > issue
> > > hasn't even received any reaction/suggestion. I conclude by
> saying
> > this
> > > group like many other groups is exposing its insensitivity to
the
> > issues
> > > concerning the blind. Assuming this group was setup apart from
> > discussing
> > > technology to the blind also all such matter/issues concerning
the
> > blind.
> > > This is one such test case where all you failed to come up
> necessary
> > > needful. This group remains useless/futile and unworthy. P.
> Subramani
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Kotian, H P
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:34 PM
> > > Subject: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello
> > > Forwarding a mail, which did not get to the list.
> > > Harish Kotian
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: P. Subramani <mailto:[email protected]>
> > > To: accessindia <mailto:[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:24 PM
> > > Subject: Recruitment rules!
> > >
> > > A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while
undergoing
> > medical
> > > examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in
> > Southwestern
> > > Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard.
> From
> > > whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification.
> The
> > person
> > > is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from
> all.
> > This
> > > is very urgent. P. Subramani d
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